Derive equation for electric potential of electric dipole

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The discussion focuses on the derivation of the electric field equation for an electric dipole consisting of charges +q and -q separated by distance d. The original equation presented from the book is questioned for its treatment of charge positions, specifically whether it accurately reflects the dipole's configuration. The confusion arises from the interpretation of the origin's position on the z-axis, with clarification that z=0 is indeed located between the two charges. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately defining reference points in physics equations. Understanding these details is crucial for correctly applying the dipole's electric field equation.
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I'm not understanding how the equation of the electric field due to an electric dipole is derived. This is how my book derives it:

Say you have electric dipole composed of charges +q and -q a distance d apart, with the negative charge at the origin of the z-axis. Then, at any point z, the E field is:

\frac{kq}{(z-\frac{1}{2}d)^{2}} - \frac{kq}{(z+\frac{1}{2}d)^{2}}

Below is the exact picture of the situation from my book:

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But shouldn't the equation be:
\frac{kq}{(z-d)^{2}} - \frac{kq}{z^{2}}

??

In my book's equation, it looks like they're just treating the two charges as if they're at the same point (the midpoint, corresponding to (1/2)d)...I know that for large z, this wouldn't matter much, but still, what if you want small z...
 
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You have misunderstood the position of the origin. z=0 is between the charges (the dot).
 
torquil said:
You have misunderstood the position of the origin. z=0 is between the charges (the dot).

Oh! wow I am stupid thanks lol
 
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