Deriving d/dx (ye^∫pdx): Integration Factor Homework

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the expression \( ye^{\int p \, dx} \) in the context of integration factors, specifically how to derive the term \( Py \) using differentiation techniques.

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  • Participants explore the application of the product rule for differentiation and question how the term \( P \) is derived from \( e^{\int p \, dx} \). There is also a discussion about the correct formulation of the equation and the use of parentheses to clarify the expression.

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Some participants have provided insights into the differentiation process, while others are seeking clarification on specific steps and the relationships between the terms. The conversation appears to be productive, with attempts to clarify the mathematical expressions involved.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the equality of the expressions and the need for proper notation, indicating that participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


## d/dx (ye^∫pdx = Py+ y'e^∫pdx##
now i know how they got ## y'e^∫pdx## .
How do you differentiate ##ye^∫pdx## to get the first part i.e## Py ## presumably by product rule?

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d/dx of e^∫pdx is equal to P ...how?
 
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chwala said:

Homework Statement


## d/dx (ye^∫pdx = Py+ y'e^∫pdx##
now i know how they got ## y'e^∫pdx## .
How do you differentiate ##ye^∫pdx## to get the first part i.e## Py ## presumably by product rule?

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The Attempt at a Solution

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d/dx of e^∫pdx is equal to P ...how?
Corrected (LaTeX) version of your first equation? ## \ d/dx (ye^{∫pdx}) = py+ y'e^{∫pdx}##
Well they are not equal.
However, a set of parentheses can fix that.
## \ d/dx (ye^{∫pdx}) = (py+ y')e^{∫pdx}##
 
To see that a bit more clearly, start by putting ##u=\int p~dx##. Then
$$\frac{d}{dx}(ye^u) = \frac{dy}{dx}e^u+y(\frac{d}{du}e^u)\frac{du}{dx}$$
$$=y'e^u + ye^u.p$$
$$=e^u(y'+py)=(py+y')e^{\int p~dx}$$
 
ok, Thanks Sammy and James, greetings from Africa
 

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