Deriving Equations of Motion for Two-Step Cone Pulley Vibration

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The discussion revolves around deriving the equations of motion for a two-step cone pulley system connected by a belt, focusing on vibration analysis within the context of mechanical engineering. Participants are seeking assistance with a specific problem from a textbook, which involves understanding the dynamics of the system and formulating the necessary equations to analyze its behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the problem as a two degrees of freedom system and emphasizes the need to draw a free body diagram of the pulleys connected by springs.
  • Another participant questions the consistency of the given input and output speeds, suggesting there may be a typo in the problem statement.
  • A later post provides updated variables including Young's modulus for the belt and moments of inertia for the pulleys, while reiterating the need to derive the initial equations of motion.
  • Participants mention using Newton's second law and assume simple harmonic motion to formulate the equations, but express uncertainty about deriving the initial equations of motion.
  • There is a reference to using Rayleigh's energy method to find kinetic and potential energy, indicating a methodical approach to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to derive the equations of motion, but there is uncertainty regarding the initial conditions and parameters of the problem. Disagreement exists about the consistency of the provided data, and no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to derive the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have noted potential inconsistencies in the problem's parameters, such as the input and output speeds, which may affect the derivation process. The discussion reflects various assumptions and methods proposed without resolving the mathematical steps involved.

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Hi, I'm currently studying Mechanical Eng & have a class next semester 'Eng Analysis', which involves a large section on vibration. I've been trying to work my way through S.S.Rao, Mech Vibrations, 2nd edition. There's one specific problem; Project 5.51/Chapter 5/page 292.
The problem concerns; two step cone pulleys connected by a belt. All relevant variables are given i.e. input/output shaft rpm, driven puley rpms, distance between centres,polar moments of inertia etc.
I understand that this is a 2 Degrees of Freedom problem, & I should draw a free body diagram ( 2 pulleys connected by 2 springs). It's theinitial 'Equations of Motion' that I can't derive, & without these I can't really start the problem. I've attached a screen shot containing a clear example of the problem.
Any help that's offered would be greatfully received.
 

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toolpusher123 said:
Hi, I'm currently studying Mechanical Eng & have a class next semester 'Eng Analysis', which involves a large section on vibration. I've been trying to work my way through S.S.Rao, Mech Vibrations, 2nd edition. There's one specific problem; Project 5.51/Chapter 5/page 292.
The problem concerns; two step cone pulleys connected by a belt. All relevant variables are given i.e. input/output shaft rpm, driven puley rpms, distance between centres,polar moments of inertia etc.
I understand that this is a 2 Degrees of Freedom problem, & I should draw a free body diagram ( 2 pulleys connected by 2 springs). It's theinitial 'Equations of Motion' that I can't derive, & without these I can't really start the problem. I've attached a screen shot containing a clear example of the problem.
Any help that's offered would be greatfully received.

What does the textbook say about this kind of problem? What equations does the text use when describing this kind of problem?
 
From the question:
Input speed 350 RPM, output speed 150 RPM
Input diameter 250mm, output diameter 1000mm

? Either I don't understand the question, or there is a typo somewhere. Those numbers don't seem to be consistent with each other.
 
Same problem, updated rpm's & diameters...

Hi, sorry here's the question with updated variables i.e. input shaft speed, output pulley speeds.
Young's modulus for the belt: j1= 1x10^10 N/m^2, Drive step cone mass moment of inertia: j2=0.35 kg.m^2, Driven step cone mass moment of inertia: 0.6 kg.m^2, Distance between centres: c=2.8m, belt width: 19mm
Please see attached for details.

1st step: Free Body Diagram. this is essentially the 2 masses connected by 2 springs.
2nd step: Using Newton's 2nd law (∑F=ma), write Eq's of motion.
3rd: Assume simple harmonics. x=X sin (ωt+ø), x'=ωX cos (ωt+ø)
4th: determine natural frequencies...
I think it's 'Rayleigh's energy method', I should use to find the KE of the step cones & PE of the springs.
It's the initial Eq's of motion that I can't derive.
 

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N=300rpm
No1=650rpm
No2=450rpm
No3=250rpm
No4=100rpm
d1=400mm
d2=300mm
d3=200mm
d4=100mm
 
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