Describing A Mathematical Result

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical result involving a unit vector and another vector, specifically examining the relationship expressed by the equation b^2 = (\vec{u} \cdot \vec{b})^2 + (\vec{u} \times \vec{b})^2. Participants are tasked with explaining this result and its implications.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of the dot product and cross product in the context of the equation, questioning if the cross product indicates the component of vector b in the direction of vector u. There is also an inquiry into the validity of certain statements regarding the decomposition of vector b.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants confirming the need to square the terms in the equation. There is a focus on validating the interpretations of the components of the equation, though no consensus has been reached on all statements presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings regarding the formulation of the equation and the definitions of the vector components involved. The original poster seeks confirmation on the correctness of their statements without explicit resolution provided by others.

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Homework Statement


Let u be an arbitrary fixed unit vector and show that an vector b satisfies b^2 = (\vec{u} \cdot \vec{b}) + (\vec{u} \times \vec{b})^2 Explain this result in words, with the help of a picture.

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I understand that the equations says that the square of the magnitude of some vector b is equal to the square of the dot product of b and some arbitrary unit vector u, plus the square of the cross product between the two vectors alluded to already.

I want to examine the dot product first. \vec{u} \cdot \vec{b} = |u||b|\cos \theta. Is it correct to state that the cross product represents the amount of vector b that goes (points) in the direction of vector u. So, the right side of the equation can be thought of the magnitude of some vector\vec{b_{\vec{u}}}, such that \vec{b_{\vec{u}}} = c \vec{u}, and \vec{b} = \vec{b_{\vec{u}}} + \vec{b_{||}}, where \vec{b_{||}} is orthogonal to the vector u.

Are these correct statements?
 
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Can you write the question as it is supposed to be written.
 
The description given in section 1 is the exact problem.
 
Bashyboy said:
I want to examine the dot product first. \vec{u} \cdot \vec{b} = |u||b|\cos \theta. Is it correct to state that the cross product represents the amount of vector b that goes (points) in the direction of vector u. So, the right side of the equation can be thought of the magnitude of some vector\vec{b_{\vec{u}}}, such that \vec{b_{\vec{u}}} = c \vec{u}, and \vec{b} = \vec{b_{\vec{u}}} + \vec{b_{||}}, where \vec{b_{||}} is orthogonal to the vector u.

Are these correct statements?

I simply want to know if these statements are valid.
 
Are you sure that the first term on the rhs is (\vec{u} \cdot \vec{b}) rather than (\vec{u} \cdot \vec{b})^2?
 
Chester, you are correct. It should be squared.
 
So, am I to assume the statements I quoted in post #4 are correct, as no one has opposed them?
 
(\vec{u} \cdot \vec{b})^2=b^2\cos^2{\theta}
(\vec{u} \times \vec{b})\cdot(\vec{u} \times \vec{b})=b^2\sin^2{\theta}
 

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