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The discussion revolves around designing a device that activates upon human touch. Participants explore various sensor technologies, including infrared and capacitive sensors, and address challenges in distinguishing human touch from other stimuli. The conversation includes technical considerations and potential solutions for the design process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a near-focus PIR sensor, a capacitive sensor, or a mechanical push-button as possible solutions for the touch sensor device.
  • Another participant discusses the challenges of creating a sensor that only activates with human touch, referencing the complexities faced by fingerprint reader companies in ensuring accurate detection.
  • A participant mentions using two capacitors in series and the effect of adding a capacitor to ground, proposing that a metallic plate with a dielectric could be used to detect human touch.
  • One participant expresses interest in both capacitive and PIR sensors, questioning the use of a lens for the PIR sensor and noting the conductive nature of human moisture as a factor in sensor activation.
  • Another participant shares a simple method involving FET transistors that can be triggered by skin contact, recalling a personal experiment with turning an LED on and off.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on sensor technologies and their effectiveness in detecting human touch. There is no consensus on the best approach or solution, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal design and functionality of the device.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various technical challenges, such as ensuring the sensor only activates with human touch and the potential for false triggers from other sources, like wet shoes. The discussion does not resolve these issues or provide definitive solutions.

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hi there
I'm up to design a device which switches on when human body touches it.
I have a rough idea to use IR, Electrical phenomenas of body.
But don't know how to start and where to start.
help pleasez
 
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haren said:
hi there
I'm up to design a device which switches on when human body touches it.
I have a rough idea to use IR, Electrical phenomenas of body.
But don't know how to start and where to start.
help pleasez

Welcome to the PF. Yes, you could use a near-focus PIR (passive infra-red) sensor, or a capacitive sensor, or a mechanical push-button. What can you tell us about each of those options? What are some other options?

BTW, we do not do your projects for you. Tell us what your thoughts are on how to complete this project.
 
If you have two small capacitors in series, they will carry a high frequency pulse stream OK provided the load is high impedance.

If you put a capacitor to ground at the junction of the two capacitors, this will reduce the signal getting through the series combination.
Now, if this capacitor is a flat metalic plate on a thin piece of dielectric with a human touching the other side of it, you will get a similar effect.

Is that enough to let you develop it yourself? Check out CMOS gates as an easy way to do this.
 
It is not quite clear what you are asking.
Making a sensor that switches on when a human touches it isn't very difficult.

Making a sensors that switches on only if it is a human (as opposed to someone poking it with a stick) is significantly more difficult. Companies that develop and sell fingerprint readers have been working on this problem for a long time (because they want to make sure that the pattern their sensor is reading is on an actual finger -not a cast- and that the finger is still attached to its original owner), as far as I know there is no 100% perfect solution although although they are getting better all the time.
As far as I understand they use a combination of methods: temperature, conductivity of the skin etc
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. Yes, you could use a near-focus PIR (passive infra-red) sensor, or a capacitive sensor, or a mechanical push-button. What can you tell us about each of those options? What are some other options?

BTW, we do not do your projects for you. Tell us what your thoughts are on how to complete this project.

Thank you for the reply. I'm working on both capacitive sensor and pir sensor. For PIR senser
what can be used as a lens? can a normal IR sensor be used?

I also understand that conducting nature of moisture of human body can be used to achieve the goal.
I'm trying make the switch operatable by feet too. but a wet shoe could also trigger the sensor in this... so 'human touch only' is failing in this!
 
This is dirt simple, if you don't care much for stability. Just cascade a few FET transistors if you touch the gate they should become conducting through the charges on your skin, I did it as a child once to turn a LED on and off, but I don't know what else will make it trigger.
 
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