COVID Designer viruses as vaccines: yea or nay?

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The discussion centers on the ethical implications and scientific feasibility of using designer viruses as an alternative to vaccines in response to pandemics. Concerns are raised about the risks of releasing a replication-competent virus into the population, including potential uncontrolled evolution and ethical violations related to consent. The conversation also highlights the limitations of current vaccine technologies and the social reluctance to vaccinate, which could worsen outcomes in the face of more deadly viruses. The emergence of the OMICRON variant is noted as a natural means of boosting immunity, raising questions about the effectiveness of vaccines versus natural infection. Ultimately, the dialogue emphasizes the need for careful consideration of both scientific capabilities and ethical responsibilities in public health strategies.
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Mike S. said:
Suppose the doctor (or nurse) is one of the rare people who actually had a bad reaction to a vaccine - maybe an allergy, perhaps even a case of Guillain-Barre. Would you say that doctor should be fired also?
Possibly. Perhaps temporarily moved to a different area of work if possible, or relegated primarily to something like video appointments where their risk of catching and transmitting the disease is minimal.

Note that there's a big difference between someone trying and being unable to do something versus someone refusing to do something. You can sometimes stay in the military for years while being unable to perform half of your duties if you've had an illness or injury that makes those duties impossible, but refusal will get you kicked out VERY quickly.

Mike S. said:
And yet, people at work can't tell you who had COVID in the office.
I doubt this. I'm a disabled vet who doesn't work, but my ex was constantly coming home and telling me that so-and-so at work contracted Covid and was going to be out for a few weeks. Of my close friends that I've talked to recently, most know who has had Covid at their work. My girlfriend's best friends also know who has had Covid at their work.
 
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Drakkith said:
Possibly. Perhaps temporarily moved to a different area of work if possible, or relegated primarily to something like video appointments where their risk of catching and transmitting the disease is minimal.

Note that there's a big difference between someone trying and being unable to do something versus someone refusing to do something. You can sometimes stay in the military for years while being unable to perform half of your duties if you've had an illness or injury that makes those duties impossible, but refusal will get you kicked out VERY quickly.I doubt this. I'm a disabled vet who doesn't work, but my ex was constantly coming home and telling me that so-and-so at work contracted Covid and was going to be out for a few weeks. Of my close friends that I've talked to recently, most know who has had Covid at their work. My girlfriend's best friends also know who has had Covid at their work.
Same here (UK, my place of work at least) one of us gets it we let everyone know.
EDIT: and not because we have to.
 
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