Designing a Tensile Test for an Aluminum Rod to Withstand 200kN Force

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The discussion revolves around the design of an aluminum rod intended to withstand a force of 200kN. Participants explore the implications of maximum allowable stress, strain, and deformation limits, as well as the calculations necessary to determine the rod's dimensions and properties. The scope includes technical reasoning and mathematical analysis related to tensile testing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the rod must withstand a force of 200kN with a maximum allowable stress of 170MPa and a strain of 0.0025mm/mm−1.
  • Another participant questions the relationship between the maximum allowable stress and the applied force, seeking clarification on how these parameters affect the rod's cross-section.
  • Concerns are raised about the relationship between the required length of the rod (at least 3.8m) and the maximum allowable elastic deformation (no more than 6mm) under the applied force.
  • A participant presents calculations for the initial length (Lo) and cross-sectional area (Ao), using formulas for strain and stress, but seeks validation of their approach.
  • Another participant reiterates the same calculations and questions the expected extension of the rod at the maximum allowable stress, indicating uncertainty about the implications of the strain value.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the calculations and relationships between stress, strain, and deformation. There is no consensus on the correctness of the calculations or the implications of the parameters provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the assumptions regarding the application of force, the relationship between stress and cross-sectional area, or the implications of the strain value on the rod's design.

Elitisi Piuela
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Homework posted in wrong forum, so no template
I'm asked to design a rod, it is aluminium and it is to withstand force of 200kN.
maximum allowable stress is 170MPa with a strain of 0.0025mm.mm^-1
rod must be at least 3.8m long but must deform elastically no more than 6mm when the force is applied.

UTS = 170 MPa
e = 0.0025mm.mm^-1
F = 200kN
Lf = 6mm + 3.8m (?)
Lo = 3796.5087mm (?)
Gauge length = Lo ??
I'm unsure about the gauge length, Lo and Lf
do i need to also consider the force 200kN
 
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Elitisi Piuela said:
it is to withstand force of 200kN.
Applied how? I'll assume this is tension.
Elitisi Piuela said:
maximum allowable stress is 170MPa
I'm not quite sure what that is saying. Is it that at a tension of 200kN the stress must be no more than 170MPa? What does that tell you about the cross-section?
Elitisi Piuela said:
with a strain of 0.0025mm.mm^-1
Elitisi Piuela said:
at least 3.8m long but must deform elastically no more than 6mm when the force is applied
I'm unclear how those two relate. The first seems to say that at 200kN tension the rod must not extend more than 0.25%, while the second says it must not extend more than 6/38 %, or about .15%.
Elitisi Piuela said:
do i need to also consider the force 200kN
Since it must withstand that force, that seems a rather crucial consideration.
 
I've come up with Lo = 3796.51mm and Ao = 0.0012msquared
using the formulas:
e = Δgaugelength/initial length (taking that Δgaugelength = 3.8m + 6mm)
σ = P/Ao (P=0.2MN , σ = 170MN/msquared)

is this right?
 
Elitisi Piuela said:
I've come up with Lo = 3796.51mm and Ao = 0.0012msquared
using the formulas:
e = Δgaugelength/initial length (taking that Δgaugelength = 3.8m + 6mm)
σ = P/Ao (P=0.2MN , σ = 170MN/msquared)

is this right?
That satisfies the max allowable stress, but what will the extension be if at that stress it extends 2.5 mm/m?
 

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