Desperately - Hooke's law - stiffness constant

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The discussion revolves around calculating the stiffness constant, k, using Hooke's law from an experiment involving a spring and added mass. The user has plotted length against mass and derived the equation k = ((x2 - x1) x g) / (y2 - y1) to find k. They seek guidance on calculating the uncertainty in k, given the uncertainties in length (±0.5 mm) and mass (±5 g). Suggestions include exploring error propagation methods, particularly through partial derivatives, to accurately determine the uncertainty. The urgency of the request highlights the need for a timely resolution to complete the analysis.
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Iv done an experiment with a spring wher you add mass and record the new length. From a table of these rusults iv plotted length (m) against mass (kg), like so

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Now i have to calculate the stiffness, k, from this graph with the equation:

mg = k (l - lo)

so just to varify that what iv done is correct:

mg = (x2 - x1) x g

(l - lo) = (y2 - y1)

so k = ( (x2-x1) x g ) / (y2 - y1)

im pretty sure that's correct, its almost identical from using a single value of length and mass from the table of results.

QUESTION

how do i calculate the uncertainty in k?

all my measurements of length have an uncertainty of +/-0.5mm, each of the 100g masses i use in the experiment have an uncertainty of +/- 5g and of cource there will be an uncertainty in drawing my graph.

how do i use these to get my error in k?

btw the spring has negligible mass.

iv been trying to work this out for hours to no avail and its GOT to be in TOMORROW :cry:

any help, id really appreciate it.
 
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Depending on the sophistication of your mathematics background, error considerations can be done in different ways. If you've gone through multivariable calculus and know how to do partial derivatives, you should read up on error propagation. The link below is a good place to start, but other resources are readily available by use of Google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propagation_of_uncertainty

_Greg_ said:
Iv done an experiment with a spring wher you add mass and record the new length. From a table of these rusults iv plotted length (m) against mass (kg), like so

View attachment 10239

Now i have to calculate the stiffness, k, from this graph with the equation:

mg = k (l - lo)

so just to varify that what iv done is correct:

mg = (x2 - x1) x g

(l - lo) = (y2 - y1)

so k = ( (x2-x1) x g ) / (y2 - y1)

im pretty sure that's correct, its almost identical from using a single value of length and mass from the table of results.

QUESTION

how do i calculate the uncertainty in k?

all my measurements of length have an uncertainty of +/-0.5mm, each of the 100g masses i use in the experiment have an uncertainty of +/- 5g and of cource there will be an uncertainty in drawing my graph.

how do i use these to get my error in k?

btw the spring has negligible mass.

iv been trying to work this out for hours to no avail and its GOT to be in TOMORROW :cry:

any help, id really appreciate it.
 
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