Destructive Interference and the Conservation of Energy

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Discussion Overview

This discussion revolves around the wave nature of light, specifically focusing on destructive interference and its implications for the conservation of energy. Participants explore theoretical scenarios involving coherent light sources and the effects of interference on energy distribution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where two coherent laser beams combine in phase for constructive interference, resulting in a beam with doubled amplitude.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that energy is lost during destructive interference, suggesting that reflected light could compensate for energy loss.
  • A different participant challenges the optical arrangement proposed, stating that the beams cannot be brought together as described.
  • Another participant argues that the beams are not spatially colocated due to internal reflections, thus preventing complete destructive interference.
  • One participant emphasizes that the discussion is a thought experiment and acknowledges the practical limitations of achieving perfect blending of beams in reality.
  • A later reply raises a question about the nature of interference, suggesting that individual photons may only interfere with themselves, and inquires if this is related to their bosonic nature.
  • Another participant reiterates that while destructive interference can occur in certain locations, energy is conserved overall, and interactions with matter can also play a role in energy transfer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of achieving complete destructive interference and the implications for energy conservation. There is no consensus on the accuracy of the proposed optical arrangement or the nature of interference between different beams.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the proposed optical setup, including the practical challenges of achieving perfect interference and the spatial arrangement of the beams. The discussion remains open regarding the conditions under which interference occurs and its impact on energy conservation.

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This is a question concerning the wave nature of light and the conservation of energy.

Consider a prism that combines two sources of monochromatic, coherent (laser) light into one beam. The sources are adjusted so that the laser beams combine in phase resulting in constructive interference. So, the resultant beam has the same wavelength as the parent beams but it's electric and magnetic vectors have twice the amplitude.

Now consider the same setup but with the one parent beam adjusted so that the beams combine 180 degrees out of phase, resulting in 100 percent destructive interference. The electric field vector of the first beam exactly cancels the electric field vector of the second beam and vice versa; the same is true for the magnetic field vector.

It seems that at this point, with the two light beams perfectly combined 180 degrees out of phase that the resultant beam of light is effectively obliterated. If so, where does the energy go? How is the law of conservation of energy maintained when considering this system?
 

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You asssume that the light has only one way out
In fact,the light beams can be reflected at the surface
Once the refracted light is canceled out,the reflected light will be strengthened.
 
Sorry if this seems nit picky but the optical arrangement shown will not bend both beams through 90 degrees and bring them together.
 
I do not believe that this image is an accurate representation. The two beams of light are internally reflecting off of different surfaces, so they are not spatially colocated. Therefore, they cannot exhibit complete destructive interference. I think this is also what Dadface noticed.
 
Don't take the drawing too literally, the whole question is meant as a thought experiment. Here I'm assuming that there is some optical arrangement that would blend the two beams. It is probably not possible to create optics to blend the beams perfectly in real life.
 
Hmm, why would two (different) beams give interference? I thought each quantum only interferes with itself. Is it a boson thing?
 
Rattus_norveg said:
Here I'm assuming that there is some optical arrangement that would blend the two beams. It is probably not possible to create optics to blend the beams perfectly in real life.
That is correct, you can get destructive interference in some places and constructive interference in others, but energy is conserved overall. You can also, of course, have interactions with matter where energy is transferred between the fields and matter, but again energy is conserved overall.
 

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