Determine Absolute Convergence, Conditionally Convergent, or Divergent

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series ##\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }\dfrac {\left( -3\right) ^{n}} {n^{3}}##, with participants exploring whether it is absolutely convergent, conditionally convergent, or divergent. The subject area includes series convergence tests and properties of alternating series.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Limit Comparison Test and the Alternating Series Test, questioning how to handle the negative base in the series. There is an attempt to prove that ##3^n > n^3## and to determine the limit of the series as n approaches infinity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on using the Alternating Series Test and L'Hopital's Rule. There are multiple interpretations regarding the divergence of the series, and some participants express confusion about the results from Wolfram Alpha.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of using the Limit Comparison Test for a series with negative terms and are uncertain about the behavior of the limit as n approaches infinity.

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Homework Statement


##\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }\dfrac {\left( -3\right) ^{n}} {n^{3}}##

According to Wolfram Alpha the series diverges by the Limit Comparison Test, but I remember that the limit comparison only works with series greater than zero. How is this possible?

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Also, I have no clue how to use the alternating series test on this one, since it's (-3)^n in the numerator not (-1)^n or (-1)^n+1

Please, help.
 
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Isn't that the same as:
\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }\frac {3^n(-1)^n}{n^3}
 
Yes, sorry about that. Now, I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.
 
Use the Alternating Series Test.
 
Yeah, I'm trying to prove that 3^n > n^3
 
How do you use the Alternating Series Test? There are 2 steps. The first is finding the limit of ##a_n## and testing if it's zero.
 
Step1: lim as "n" approaches infinity of A_n =0
Step2: A_n > A_(n+1)
 
Work out the first step and verify if you get zero, or not.
 
Yeah, that's what I am trying. Supposedly, I doesn't go to zero. Then from the test of divergence, it diverges. However, I don't know how to test it as n goes to infinity.
##\lim _{n\rightarrow \infty }\dfrac {3^{n}} {n^{3}}##

I'm trying to prove that 3^n is much bigger than n^3; therefore, it diverges.
 
  • #10
Use L'Hopital's Rule.
 
  • #11
Great! Thank you.

## \lim _{n\rightarrow \infty }\dfrac {3^{n}} {n^{3}}\dfrac {H} {-}\dfrac {3^{n}} {9n}\dfrac {H} {-}\dfrac {n3^{n-1}} {9}##

Diverges.

Why would Wolfram Alpha state that by the limit comparison test, the series diverges?
 
  • #12
Applying L'Hopital's Rule, your numerator is wrong. What is the derivative of ##3^n##? The derivative of your denominator is also wrong.
 
  • #13
(3^n) ln(3)
 
  • #14
You'll have to apply L'Hopital's Rule three times to get:
\lim_{n\to \infty} \frac{3^n (\ln 3)^3}{6}
 
  • #15
You are correct.
Why would Wolfram Alpha state that by the limit comparison test, the series diverges?
 
  • #16
I just put it into WolframAlpha and it said "By the limit test, the series diverges" (not limit comparison).
 

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