Determine Kn (constant) of MOSFET easyway

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The discussion focuses on extracting the Kn constant from the MOSFET datasheet, specifically using the IRF510. The user calculates Kn using the formula Kn = (gfs)^2 / (4 * Id), resulting in a value of 124 mA/V² based on the gfs parameter. They express confusion regarding discrepancies in their LT-Spice simulation, where the expected Id current does not match the observed Vds voltage, which is only 200 mV instead of the anticipated higher output. The user seeks assistance in understanding the cause of this issue, indicating potential problems with their circuit setup or calculations. Clarification on these points is requested to resolve the discrepancies experienced in the simulation.
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long time when i had tried more on how to extracting Kn from mosfet datasheet
finally i found it;
i datasheet look at gfs parameter with its details
lets take IRF510
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gfs------------ 1.3 ----------- @3.4 A ----------- simens
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gfs is another name of Gm

thus
Kn= (gfs)^2 / (4*Id) where Id specified in datasheet under test condations of gfs

Kn= (1.3)^2 / (4 * 3.4) = 124 mA/V2

please if =there are something wrong in my calculation then do not stop reply and give us your opinions
 
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Well in saturation,

I = kn/2 * W/L * (Vgs - Vth)^2

Or = Kn/2 * (Vgs - Vth)^2 if you include W/L in kn.

Then Gm = Kn * (Vgs - Vth)

Thus, Kn = (Gm^2)/(2I)

putting values, = 1.3^2 / 2*3.4 = 248.529 mA/V^2
 
there is something strange in my lt-spice
when i build my circuit mosfet with voltage divider + NO Rs (@Source Lead)
i did not get the corresponding Id current WHY?

my parameter:
R1=R2=100K
Rd=400
Id=10 mA
where i used IRF510 with Kn= gfs^2 / 4Id = (1.3)^2 / (4 * 3.4 ) = 124 mA/v2
i want to see at least V0= 1 or more than this

but unfortunately i see very small voltage on Vds about 200 mV

please some one help me
 
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