Engineering Determine the capacitance between two surfaces

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The discussion focuses on calculating the capacitance between two cylindrical surfaces using electric field and potential equations. The initial attempt involves integrating the electric field to find charge and then using that to derive voltage, leading to a capacitance formula. However, concerns are raised regarding the application of Gauss's law due to a lack of symmetry in the charge distribution, particularly if the cylinders are not full. When the cylinders are considered as full (2π angle), symmetry allows for a more straightforward calculation of capacitance. The final conclusion emphasizes the need to account for the symmetry in the geometry of the cylinders for accurate capacitance determination.
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Homework Statement
Determine capacitance between the two surfaces (see picture). The electric field is assumed to be radial.
Relevant Equations
1) C = Q/V. 2) Gauss law (cylinder); Qenc = integral of E*e0 dA , where dA is small element of the surface. 3) V = -gradient of E
For my solution I'm skipping writing out all the vectors, I just want to see if I'm in the right way or totally off.

Attempt at solution:
Qenc = ∫ E(r)*e0 ds = ∫ E(r)*e0 *h* r*dtheta, we integrate from 0 to phi0. This will give us Q = E(r)*e0*h*r*phi0.

Now we find V by integrating E from a to b with respect to r.
V = ∫ E(r) dr = Q / (e0*h*phi0) * ∫ 1/r dr = Q * ln(b/a) * 1/(e0*h*phi0).

And lastly we have C = Q/V = ln(b/a) * 1(e0*h*phi0).

Does this look reasonable? Unfortunately I don't have the right answer to this task.
 

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goohu said:
And lastly we have C = Q/V = ln(b/a) * 1(e0*h*phi0).
C=\epsilon_0 \frac{h \phi_0}{ln\frac{b}{a}}
 
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I could be wrong but, why are you using gauss law for this charge distribution, I don't see any symmetry in this problem for a gaussian surface to be applied
 
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If the surfaces are not ##\phi_0## parts but 2##\pi## full cylinders, are you all right on symmetry ?
 
Yeah, actually in this case it doesn't seem to be symmetrical so my attempt was probably wrong.

If the cylinders are whole (2 pi angle) then it is symmetrical.
 
goohu said:
If the cylinders are whole (2 pi angle) then it is symmetrical.

By symmetry you get conductance of whole cylinders that is #2 answer with ##\phi_0=2\pi##
Then cut the cake or pizza of thus charged cylinders with ##\phi_0## and ##2\pi-\phi_0## parts.
Conductance is divided to the parts with the ratio of ##\phi_0## and ##2\pi-\phi_0##.
 
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