Determine the function so that the integral holds

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The problem involves determining functions H defined on the interval (0, ∞) that satisfy a specific integral equation. The equation relates H to an integral involving its derivative, leading to a potential differential equation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for manipulating the integral, including integration by parts and differentiation. There are attempts to derive a differential equation from the original integral equation. Some participants suggest checking the correctness of derived functions by substituting back into the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and results. Some have arrived at potential forms for H, while others question the accuracy of these forms. There is no explicit consensus on the final solution, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to satisfy a boundary condition, H(2) = 0, which adds complexity to the problem. There is also a discussion about the implications of differentiating the equation and how it affects the constraints on H.

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Homework Statement



Determine all functions H:(0,\infty)\to\mathbb{R}
so that H(x)=\frac{1}{x}\int_{2}^{x}t(3-2H'(t))\ dt,\ \ x>0

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to integrate by parts to change the integral into to the form of a differential equation, or at least an equation that could be differentiated to yield a differential equation. However; I always end up with a 1/x term in from of my integral thus making it impossible to get only H'(x) and H(x). Basically, I can't eliminate the integral of H(x) from my equation
 
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try to differentiate both parts with respect to x, and see if you can get anything. or just try to integrate the right-handed side and see if you can come up with sth.
 
I had to multiply the equation with x then the differentiation works out fine
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Yeah, after that you should have gotten a differential equation, i think it should be a linear one, which is solved using an integrating factor. So all solutions of that diff. eq are indeed all the functions H(t)=(3/4) x+Cx^-3, if i can remember it well, because i did it yesterday or sth after you posted, and i am not sure if this is the exact answer i got.
But as a check to your answer take the derivative of this function, and plug it in the integral, integrate it and see if you get the same function H(t).
 
yeah its a linear one and the result I got is H=(3/4)x + Cx^(-1/3)
 
gop said:
yeah its a linear one and the result I got is H=(3/4)x + Cx^(-1/3)

are u sure u didn't do any mistakes on your way!??i think the answer should read

H(x)=\frac{3}{4}x+Cx^{-3} and not

H(x)=\frac{3}{4}x+Cx^{\frac{-1}{3}

as a means of checking your answer, follow the instructions i gave u in post # 4

These kind of problems are quite interesting, this one too! ...lol...
 
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I tried in maple
dsolve(H(x)+x*(diff(H(x), x)) = x*(3-2*(diff(H(x), x))));

and got
H(x) = \frac{3}{4}x + \frac{_C1}{x^{1/3}}

so I guess the 1/3 is correct.
I did the exercise in class today the one thing I forgot was that because I differentiate I relax the constraints and have to require
H(2) = 0
 

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