Determining the magnetic force on an electron

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the magnetic force on an electron moving through a magnetic field, specifically a field of 0.0200 T directed upwards. The original poster attempts to calculate both the magnetic force and the radius of the circular path of the electron, while also seeking clarification on the application of the right-hand rule (RHR) for determining the direction of the magnetic force.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the right-hand rule and question the correctness of the original poster's interpretation of the direction of the magnetic force. There is also a query regarding the units used for force in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's calculations and the application of the right-hand rule, indicating that while the math may be correct, there are concerns about the interpretation of the force's direction. The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the right-hand rule and its implications for the problem.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about the application of the right-hand rule and the resulting direction of the magnetic force, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

chef99
Messages
75
Reaction score
4

Homework Statement



A magnetic field of 0.0200 T [up] is created in a region.a) Find the initial magnetic force on an electron initially moving at 5.00 x106 m/s [N] in the field.b) What is the radius of the circular path? Make a sketch showing the path of the electron.

Homework Equations


FM = qvB

FC = FM

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
FM = qvB

Fm = (1.60 x10-19C)(5.00 x106)(0.0200T)

FM = 1.6 x10-14 C

Using the right-hand rule, point the thumb in the opposite direction of the velocity, as the charge is negative. So thumb points south. The fingers point [up], in the direction of the field and the palm points west.

Therefore the direction of the magnetic force is 1.6 x10-14 C [west]b)

The electron will move with uniform circular motion.

Fnet = FM -but in circular motion, Fnet = FC

FC = FM

mv / r = qB

r = mv / qB

r = (9.11 x10-31kg)(5.00 x106) / (1.60 x10-19C)(0.0200T)

r = 1.42 x10-3m

The electron will experience a uniform circular motion with a radius of 1.42 x10-3m
I'm pretty sure I have this right, the one thing I'm not very confident about is whether I used the right-hand rule properly or not. Furthermore, assuming that the direction of the magnetic force is [west] is correct, is it in fact [west], or should it be
. The reason I used west is because the magnetic force on the electron was [N], not [up]. Any feedback is appreciated.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
I think you did most of it right, but are Coulombs the correct units for force?
 
You did use the RHR correctly, but when you say that the magnetic force on the electron is up [N], this is not correct. When I use the RHR I use my pointer finger to point in the direction of velocity, (since it is the first term in the cross product), then my middle finger points in the direction of the magnetic field(second term B). So with q(v x B) = F, then your thumb will point in the correct direction for the force on a positively charged particle. Since yours is negative, you just take the opposite direction of your thumb (or use your left hand entirely and take the direction of your thumb). With v moving [N], and B pointing [up], you should get your thumb pointing in [E], then you must take the opposite direction since your particle is negative (electron). Otherwise the math is correct. Hope this helps!
 
NateTheGreatt77 said:
You did use the RHR correctly, but when you say that the magnetic force on the electron is up [N], this is not correct. When I use the RHR I use my pointer finger to point in the direction of velocity, (since it is the first term in the cross product), then my middle finger points in the direction of the magnetic field(second term B). So with q(v x B) = F, then your thumb will point in the correct direction for the force on a positively charged particle. Since yours is negative, you just take the opposite direction of your thumb (or use your left hand entirely and take the direction of your thumb). With v moving [N], and B pointing [up], you should get your thumb pointing in [E], then you must take the opposite direction since your particle is negative (electron). Otherwise the math is correct. Hope this helps!

Thanks that makes a lot more sense. just to clarify, I got the direction of the magnetic force right, (1.6 x10-14 C [W]) just how I used the RHR was incorrect?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
6K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
5K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
2K