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Did Einstein say this?

  1. May 10, 2005 #1

    Pengwuino

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    "I came to America because of the great, great freedom which I heard existed in this country. I made a mistake in selecting America as a land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my life."

    I wonder because with all the anti-American people ive known, i have yet to hear this one come up.
     
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  3. May 10, 2005 #2

    Mk

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    lol, no way! Besides, Einstein would be greatful for pretty much anywhere else than Nazi Germany, him from a Jewish family
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  4. May 10, 2005 #3

    Pengwuino

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    If thats the case, where did it come from? Seems to show up a few times on the internetamabob.
     
  5. May 10, 2005 #4

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    Yeah, that's odd. Because we all know that no one will ever make things up and post it on the net as a fact! (I can't find the "ironic sarcasm" smiley).

    I've read several books on Al over the past two decades; this statement is unknown to me. It runs counter to his general sentiment regarding this country that is conveyed through MANY more first-hand sources. He evidently didn't like the town of Princeton too much, and he certainly thought that the classes he was required to teach were wasting his time, but it is clear that he enjoyed himself for most of his duration in the US. It is also highly probable that there was no other country in which he would have done better at that point in history. (referring specifically to during and immediately after WWII).
     
  6. May 10, 2005 #5

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    I've read a lot about Einstein and read collections of his letters and have never seen this. I say it's bogus.
     
  7. May 10, 2005 #6
    I googled it and found it cited in so many places that I cannot believe is it bogus. However, I can't find any context or the exact source, so I can't make out exactly what he meant. I had read a letter he wrote complaining that members of higher society in Princeton exercised less freedom than their counterparts in Europe. Perhaps he felt that way about America in general.

    The citations indicate that he said it in 1947, so the comparison to Nazi Germany is not relavent. Also, in 1947 he was 8 years away from his death. It seems that if he really felt cramped here, he could have left.
     
  8. May 10, 2005 #7
    I cant imagine Einstine, having come from nazi germany, would bring his new found country of fredem (America) to that level. America is not perfect, even he knew that, but to say we are not free is perposturous. And to say it was a mistake is to say that Einstine did not appretiate his fredem to conduct his theoretical work without the interuption of government or fear of government. What I am saying is that Esintine may have never made a "Thoery of relativity" if he had not moved to America.
     
  9. May 10, 2005 #8

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    reaaaaaalllyy?


    in 1905 Einstein lived in Bern, Switzerland (he worked there at a patent office from February 1902 till October 1909). He published his Special Theory of relativity in 1905.

    He published General Relativity in 1916.

    He moved to Princeton, NJ, USA in 1933
     
  10. May 10, 2005 #9
    So your saying he developed his thoery in Bern?
     
  11. May 10, 2005 #10

    Chi Meson

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    OOOH! (sucks through teeth) I cringed when I read that! Go easy on the guy, eh cronxeh? I'm sure he meant well.
     
  12. May 10, 2005 #11

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    Exactamundo
     
  13. May 10, 2005 #12

    Chi Meson

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    Um. Yes. Have you noticed the celebration that this year is the celebration of Einstein's publication of: the Photelectric Effect, Brownian Motion, and Special Relativity. All completed while he was a patent clerk in, (da da-da-daa) BERN! General Relativity was pretty much fleshed out by, what was it 1913?
     
  14. May 10, 2005 #13

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    This quote might be true

    Einstein wasnt a big fan of the United States - and he had no reason to be one.
     
  15. May 10, 2005 #14
    maybe he said that when he found his idea was used to kill 100.000 civilians.... (just guessing)
     
  16. May 10, 2005 #15

    Chi Meson

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    That would dampen MY spirits somewhat.
     
  17. May 10, 2005 #16

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    Many of us Americans share that sentiment.
     
  18. May 10, 2005 #17
    So why don't you like it? :rofl: :rolleyes:
     
  19. May 10, 2005 #18
    Einstein got the ball rolling on the bomb. Some physicists approached him and said they had reason to believe that the Nazis had put two and two together and were working on one. They needed Einstein's juice as the most famous scientist in the world to get this info to Roosevelt. Einstein wrote him a letter, which Roosevelt recieved, which eventually lead to the Los Alamos project.

    A German physicist I saw interviewed on one WWII program or another said that, yes, the idea of a nuclear weapon was spoken about quietly among physicists occasionally in Germany, but no one would have dared to mention it to the Nazis because they would have been ordered to come up with a working bomb and given a deadline to do it. No one wanted to risk working on something like that without knowing if they could meet the deadline, or if it were actually possible.

    There is an interesting anecdote about Einstein (while still in Europe), which is that he was once approached by a young polish student who proclaimed he wanted to use Einsteins ideas to make a bomb from radioactive minerals. Einstein dismissed him saying it was not a practical possibility.
     
  20. May 10, 2005 #19

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    For starters, everyone is rich and uptight, so despite a liberal backbone, actual tolerance is not particularly high. To top things off, the town-folk hate the university (it takes much of their land and does little for business), so I don't get treated well by local law enforcement.
     
  21. May 10, 2005 #20
    I hope you didn't misunderstand my 'smilies' as to annoy you. I apologize if i did give you that impression.

    I never thought townsfolk of princeton would be so full of hatred against the university.
     
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