News Real America: Sarah Palin's Vision of Pro-American Areas

[Math Is Hard]

Uh oh, Joe Biden heard it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3m6mJgFfqc&feature=user

This just looks like the Democrat version of the "Lipstick on a pig" response. It's the same game - twist the opponent's words and feign outrage.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

This just looks like the Democrat version of the "Lipstick on a pig" response. It's the same game - twist the opponent's words and feign outrage.

The lipstick on a pig comment had been used before by Obama as well as McCain. Palin is suggesting that only some Americans are pro-America. How is that the same? And she did belabor the point that she meant "real Americans", and "the best of America".

This is not the same thing. What happened was that she let her true feelings be known.

Also, now Rush is suggesting that Powell's support of Obama is rooted in race. Suddenly Powell is too liberal for our extremists.

Politico's Jonathan Martin and Mike Allen get an email from Rush Limbaugh about Gen. Colin Powell's endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

"Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race," Limbaugh wrote. "OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with. [continued]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/limbaugh-implie.html

 

[Math Is Hard]

The lipstick on a pig comment had been used before by Obama as well as McCain. Palin is suggesting that only some Americans are pro-America. How is that the same? And she did belabor the point that she meant "real Americans", and "the best of America".

This is not the same thing. What happened was that she let her true feelings be known.

Note the word "very"..

..very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation

If she had said "the only patriotic" and "the only pro-America" areas it would be a different story. If that had been the case, then it would be fair to say that she considers other parts of the nation not to be "pro-American".

All she did was praise a group of people that she sees as exceptionally patriotic. I don't see the reason for any fuss over it.

 

[Evo]

Actually, I have to question someone who would use the term "pro-America areas". That means, to me, she thinks some areas aren't.

I believe that she let her feelings slip out. She didn't say "the only" because she believes that there are other areas she considers "pro-America". There are apparently parts of the country that she doesn't. Like San Fransisco, perhaps.

 

[NeoDevin]

Todays paper carried a story of the head of the Chaffee Community Republican Women's group, in San Bernardino, CA, who distributed a newsletter with a picture of Barack Obama on an $10 bill adorned with fried chicken, ribs and watermelon.

Maybe it's just because I'm Canadian, and haven't been personally exposed to that much racism against blacks, but how exactly do fried chicken, ribs, and watermelon constitute racism?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Note the word "very"..



If she had said "the only patriotic" and "the only pro-America" areas it would be a different story. If that had been the case, then it would be fair to say that she considers other parts of the nation not to be "pro-American".

All she did was praise a group of people that she sees as exceptionally patriotic. I don't see the reason for any fuss over it.

Then why did she refer to "real Americans"? There is no qualifier for that one. The implication is that others are not a real Americans.

Look at her entire statement. The context is clear. This is all about "them" vs "us". Note also that now Obama is a socialist! They are trying to claim that by any increase in taxes is socialism. Don't you see what these people are trying to pull?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Maybe it's just because I'm Canadian, and haven't been personally exposed to that much racism against blacks, but how exactly do fried chicken, ribs, and watermelon constitute racism?

Here is the US, they are classic black stereotypes.

 

[Hurkyl]

Maybe it's just because I'm Canadian, and haven't been personally exposed to that much racism against blacks, but how exactly do fried chicken, ribs, and watermelon constitute racism?

If it makes you feel better, I'm from the States and had no idea.

 

[LowlyPion]

Palin's Alaska. This would be the way she would govern the US?
I came across this story from AP about minority tensions that Palin faces in Alaska with her time as Governor.

Black leaders say they feel snubbed by Palin
Hiring: Staff say it's evident governor supports diversity.

By RACHEL D'ORO
The Associated Press

Published: October 19th, 2008 12:24 AM
Last Modified: October 19th, 2008 12:50 AM

Alaska's black leaders say they're not surprised to see Gov. Sarah Palin at the center of the controversy over injecting the race issue into the presidential campaign.

Palin, Republican John McCain's running mate, has repeatedly insisted that Barack Obama's former preacher, the inflammatory Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is a legitimate issue even though McCain himself has said it's out of bounds.

"She has no sensitivity to minorities," said the Rev. Alonzo Patterson, a Baptist minister and president of the Alaska Black Leadership Conference. "She's really inciting a lot of African-Americans to get out and vote."

Since taking office in December 2006, Palin has had a sometimes tense relationship with black leaders, who say they've been ignored in their efforts to get more minorities hired in her administration.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/560727.html

 

[LowlyPion]

Maybe it's just because I'm Canadian, and haven't been personally exposed to that much racism against blacks, but how exactly do fried chicken, ribs, and watermelon constitute racism?

Unfortunately they carry the connotations of black minority culture, or maybe more properly the culture of the poor as these items also with the Kool-aid depicted are inexpensive dietary staples of the poor in the US South. Chicken is cheaper than pork or beef.

It's akin to suggesting that the Confederate Flag is not a symbol of racial suppression and supporting it within a more historical context of secession and states rights as McCain once did, and was forced to later recant.

But the fact remains that if the symbols carry meaning with the minorities against whom they are directed, then they are divisive. The derision in putting Obama's face on a food stamp with these symbols of black/poor culture demonstrate a remarkable lack of sensitivity and an interest in dividing rather than uniting.

It doesn't exactly reveal any kind of "reaching across the aisle" attitude when it comes to minorities.

 

[turbo]

It doesn't exactly reveal any kind of "reaching across the aisle" attitude when it comes to minorities.

But then, conservatives have always had a bit of trouble with the concept of diversity. The GOP likes to say it’s a big-tent. Looks more like a yurt to me.

Go, Buckley!

 

[jcquiros]

She's an idiot: it's hardly worth trying to guess what she means because she probably doesn't even know herself.

I think you are right. I am sure she got lost traveling down the road that leads to nowhere.

 

[jcquiros]

I believe Sen. McCain picked the wrong woman for this very important role for our country. Obama's brilliance overshadows Palin's thirst for ignorance.

 

[mgb_phys]

Maybe it's just because I'm Canadian, and haven't been personally exposed to that much racism against blacks, but how exactly do fried chicken, ribs, and watermelon constitute racism?

I had a similair experience once - we were discussing a NMR based sensor, I mentioned that we had to be careful not to use the 'N' word when describing it in public.
The Europeans all understood - the Americans looked rather shocked, I only worked out later that the banned 'N' word is different!

 

[phoenixy]

Palin apologizes for 'real America' comment

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/21/palin.sitroom/index.html

 

[physics girl phd]

I'm worried that Sarah Palin's America includes people that leave a dead baby bear with campaign posters over its head on the steps of educational institutions. Even if the perpetrators claim it wasn't political:http://www.wcu.edu/11223.asp"

 

[Astronuc]

Palin apologizes for 'real America' comment

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/21/palin.sitroom/index.html

A headline with that article - If elected, Palin says she will address energy issues, government reform - flollowed by - Palin says she has more executive experience than Sen. Barack Obama

So she's running for president.

Step aside John!

 

[Astronuc]

I'm worried that Sarah Palin's America includes people that leave a dead baby bear with campaign posters over its head on the steps of educational institutions. Even if the perpetrators claim it wasn't political:http://www.wcu.edu/11223.asp"

I find that troubling - specifically "En route to campus, the students took random political signs to put over the bear’s head in an effort to cover the head wound and prevent blood from spilling into the bed of the truck. The students dumped the bear into the center of the roundabout at the entrance to campus at about 2:40 a.m. Monday, and returned to their apartment."

The dead bear is bleeding such that they want to prevent spillage of the blood. If that's the case, it would seem it was a fresh kill. I would then suspect that they would have heard the shot, or they were involved in the shooting. Head wounds bleed profusely, and the blood at low pressure would coagulate, and the blood pressure would drop pretty quickly. I believe it is illegal shoot bears without government authorization.

 

[turbo]

There can be seepage, but dead animals do not bleed very much. Once the heart is stopped and the BP is equalized, coagulation stems further seepage. If the students were out camping, and stumbled upon a dead bear, the chances that the bear was still bleeding would be pretty small.

 

[mgb_phys]

So she's running for president.
Step aside John!

Well McCain probably shouldn't go hunting with republican vice presidents!

 

[LowlyPion]

Well McCain probably doesn't want to go hunting with republican vice presidents!

I can't imagine that anyone would.

The surprising thing to me about paranoid Cheney going hunting was that they let the other hunters have live ammo.

 

[jcquiros]

Well in GRT we are talking about relativistic electrons, but uh it has to also, with job creation. I now have thorough knowledge of relativity because in so doing I can see Russia from my house and I know is all relative because even after we lose I will still be wearing lipstick and I will be a hockey mom...well my daughter also..will be a hockey mom...ooops..sorry mr. Conservative.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

The GOP reaching across the aisle.

Folks, there’s a real America, and liberals hate real Americans that work, and accomplish, and achieve, and believe in God.” U.S. Rep. Robin Hayes, R-N.C., warming up a crowd for a McCain rally.

Hayes claims he has no memory of saying that, even though the comments were recorded. I actually believe him. Such sentiments are so engrained in certain people that they recite it without thinking about it, as they were rattling off their phone number or directions to their house. [continued]

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/10/21/liberals_hate_real_americans_1.html

Is it any wonder when we consider that right-wing radio includes the likes of McCain's good buddy, G Gordon Liddy?
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=265625

 

[Adeimantus]

She attends extremist end-time churches where people speak in tongues. Frankly, I think we have good reason to be very concerned about this woman and her "first dude".

While I share your distaste for Palin, the practice of speaking in tongues is probably the least disturbing thing about the various churches she has attended and religious leaders she has associated with (Ed Kalnins, Thomas Muthee, etc.). Couldn't you have left that out and included something more relevant to her political outlook?

 

[LowlyPion]

While I share your distaste for Palin, the practice of speaking in tongues is probably the least disturbing thing about the various churches she has attended and religious leaders she has associated with. Couldn't you have left that out and included something more relevant to her political outlook?

Is she one of the snake bite Pentecostals?

I don't think there are many snakes in Alaska ... except maybe some of the politicians.

 

[Adeimantus]

Is she one of the snake bite Pentecostals?

I don't think there are many snakes in Alaska ... except maybe some of the politicians.

Haha. No, she's not. But that's a funny image. Actually, the snake handlers, or Sign Followers, as they like to be called, are pretty harmless to everyone else except themselves and their children. Oh, and the snakes probably don't like it.

 

[mgb_phys]

Is she one of the snake bite Pentecostals?

It's grizzly bear Pentecostals in Alaska - snakes are for softies.

 

[LowlyPion]

It's grizzly bear Pentecostals in Alaska - snakes are for softies.

As a true test of faith they smear peanut butter over their face and go lay out by the dumpsters and wait for the bears?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

While I share your distaste for Palin, the practice of speaking in tongues is probably the least disturbing thing about the various churches she has attended and religious leaders she has associated with (Ed Kalnins, Thomas Muthee, etc.). Couldn't you have left that out and included something more relevant to her political outlook?

Please feel free to list what you feel are more relevant objections. I guess for me, speaking in tongues crosses the line between irrational and delusional behavior, and faith. If this were simply a matter of faith, then I would say they are free to practice their faith, and I respect that right. But when it comes to someone governing the nation, it is another matter altogether. Now I am put in a position of making judgements about the person's logic and capacity for reason.

 

[LowlyPion]

Here's a Salon video report on Sarah Palin's Conservative Agenda.

http://www.salon.com/ent/video_dog/politics/2008/10/23/wp_religion/index.html?source=video&aim=/ent/video_dog/politics