Different universes with different laws

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The discussion centers on the theoretical possibility of an infinite number of universes governed by entirely distinct laws of nature, diverging from conventional initial conditions. It posits that one such law could involve an inverted fulcrum effect on seesaws, suggesting that positioning further from the center increases the likelihood of rising. The implications of such laws are explored through the lens of the Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (MUH) as proposed by Max Tegmark, which asserts that our physical reality is an abstract mathematical structure. This hypothesis connects various physics topics, including symmetries and randomness, to broader concepts like consciousness and parallel universes.

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Is it accepted as theoretically possible that there could be an infinity of universes with totally unrelated (or possibly related) laws governing their processes?

I don't mean the different universes to have different initial (or practically initial) conditions but to have their own set of laws of nature entirely.

If so , is it possible that one of these laws might be that the fulcrum effect could be inversed -ie if you were to sit in a seesaw you would be more likely to rise off the ground the further you were positioned away from the centre rather ?

If such a law of nature could be envisaged what would be the knock on effect with respect to related laws?
 
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http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.0646
The Mathematical Universe
Authors: Max Tegmark (MIT)
(Submitted on 5 Apr 2007 (v1), last revised 8 Oct 2007 (this version, v2))
Abstract: I explore physics implications of the External Reality Hypothesis (ERH) that there exists an external physical reality completely independent of us humans. I argue that with a sufficiently broad definition of mathematics, it implies the Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (MUH) that our physical world is an abstract mathematical structure. I discuss various implications of the ERH and MUH, ranging from standard physics topics like symmetries, irreducible representations, units, free parameters, randomness and initial conditions to broader issues like consciousness, parallel universes and Godel incompleteness. I hypothesize that only computable and decidable (in Godel's sense) structures exist, which alleviates the cosmological measure problem and help explain why our physical laws appear so simple. I also comment on the intimate relation between mathematical structures, computations, simulations and physical systems.
 

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