Differential line receiver input stage

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The discussion revolves around the input stage of the AM26LS32 differential line receiver, focusing on understanding the circuit diagram, the function of specific resistors, and the behavior of the circuit when a voltage divider is used at the input. Participants are exploring technical aspects and potential issues related to biasing and DC offsets in the circuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the input stage of the AM26LS32 appears to function like a push-pull output stage and questions the role of the 100K and 20K resistors.
  • Another participant suggests that the resistors are part of the input biasing, indicating that they bias the A and B inputs slightly above and below mid-rail.
  • A participant describes their circuit setup, observing a 300mV DC offset at the differential input when a 5V square wave is applied, and notes a small DC current flowing out of the input pins, expressing confusion about the biasing behavior.
  • There is a request for clarification on the relationship between the simulation schematic provided in a PDF and the original input schematic shared earlier.
  • One participant inquires about the tolerance of the resistors used in the circuit and suggests measuring them accurately to adjust the schematic values accordingly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the circuit's behavior and the role of components, with some proposing explanations while others raise questions and uncertainties. No consensus has been reached on the specific issues raised.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the implications of the observed DC offset and current flow, nor have they clarified how the simulation schematic relates to the original input schematic. The discussion includes assumptions about resistor tolerances and their potential impact on circuit behavior.

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I was going thu AM26LS32 diff line receiver. The data sheet has a ckt diagram for the input stage. But I don't understand it.
I have attached the input stage from datasheet(page3)
The input stage actually looks like a push pull output stage.
What is the function of the 100K resistors and the 20K resistor.

http://images.elektroda.net/95_1307096582.jpg
 
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likephysics said:
I was going thu AM26LS32 diff line receiver. The data sheet has a ckt diagram for the input stage. But I don't understand it.
I have attached the input stage from datasheet(page3)
The input stage actually looks like a push pull output stage.
What is the function of the 100K resistors and the 20K resistor.

http://images.elektroda.net/95_1307096582.jpg

That's just the input bias portion of the receiver inputs. It looks like they are biasing the A and B inputs to slightly above and below (respectively) mid-rail.
 
I hooked up a circuit with a voltage divider at the input.
The differential input signal at the input of the diff receiver has a DC offset of 300mV when input is 5V square wave.
A small dc current (~40uA) is actually flowing out of the diff receiver input pins.
It doesn't make sense.
Is the bias being changed some how?
See attached pdf for ckt.
 

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Anyone?
 
likephysics said:
I hooked up a circuit with a voltage divider at the input.
The differential input signal at the input of the diff receiver has a DC offset of 300mV when input is 5V square wave.
A small dc current (~40uA) is actually flowing out of the diff receiver input pins.
It doesn't make sense.
Is the bias being changed some how?
See attached pdf for ckt.

Sorry, what is the relationship of the simulation schematic in this PDF to the original input schematic in your first post?
 
berkeman said:
Sorry, what is the relationship of the simulation schematic in this PDF to the original input schematic in your first post?
The PDF is just to give you an idea of the ckt.
 
What is the tolerance of your resistors? Can you measure them as accurately as possible and change the values in your schematic accordingly?
 
skeptic2 said:
What is the tolerance of your resistors? Can you measure them as accurately as possible and change the values in your schematic accordingly?

Sure, that wouldn't be a problem.

The tolerance is 1%.
 

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