Differentiating Piecewise Functions

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The discussion centers around differentiating piecewise functions and identifying local and absolute extrema. The original poster presents a piecewise function defined in three segments and expresses confusion regarding the differentiation process and the identification of critical points, particularly at the boundaries of the segments.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate each segment of the piecewise function separately and seeks to find critical points to determine local minima and maxima. They question the role of endpoints in the context of critical points and express uncertainty about the nature of the function at those points.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's questions, providing insights into the behavior of the function at critical points and discussing the existence of derivatives at the boundaries. There is a recognition of the need to evaluate the function's behavior around the critical points, particularly at x=0 and x=4, with some participants offering clarifications about the definitions of critical points and derivatives.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the function's definition at the endpoints does not guarantee the existence of derivatives at those points, leading to further exploration of the implications for local extrema. The discussion also highlights the importance of considering left-hand and right-hand derivatives in the analysis of piecewise functions.

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Hello Calculus Forum,

I need some help in differentiating piecewise functions and finding local/absolute minimum/maximum values. Problem is, I don't know how. For example, ...[/color]-x , if x<0
f(x)={ 2x^3-15x^2+36x , if 0<x<4, or x=0, or x=4
...[/color] 216-x , if x>4my first inclination is to differentiate each part separately, see where the slopes change in each part, and then calculuate the min/max values using the critical points, but I am not arriving at the correct answers. =\

I can find out the critical points of the middle part pretty easily
(x= 2,x=3), but my answer key also reads that there is a local minimum point at f(0)=0
I really don't have a good idea of how f(0) could be a minimum value, unless it is because x=0 is where the first part of the fuction ends and where the second piece begins, but if I am right in that regard, why isn't x=4 also considered a critical value?

Hope my question makes sense, and so on.

...
 
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Sisyphus said:
Hello Calculus Forum,

I need some help in differentiating piecewise functions and finding local/absolute minimum/maximum values. Problem is, I don't know how. For example,


...[/color]-x , if x<0
f(x)={ 2x^3-15x^2+36x , if 0<x<4, or x=0, or x=4
...[/color] 216-x , if x>4


my first inclination is to differentiate each part separately, see where the slopes change in each part, and then calculuate the min/max values using the critical points, but I am not arriving at the correct answers. =\

I can find out the critical points of the middle part pretty easily
(x= 2,x=3), but my answer key also reads that there is a local minimum point at f(0)=0
I really don't have a good idea of how f(0) could be a minimum value, unless it is because x=0 is where the first part of the fuction ends and where the second piece begins, but if I am right in that regard, why isn't x=4 also considered a critical value?

Hope my question makes sense, and so on.

...

There are no critical points "for the middle part"! Remember that a critical may be at a point where the derivative is 0, or where the derivative does not exist. You are given that
f(x)= -x , if x<0
f(x)= 2x^3-15x^2+36x , if 0<x<4, or x=0, or x=4
f(x)= 216-x , if x>4

f'(x)= -1, if x< 0
f'(x)= 6x2-30x+ 36, if 0< x< 4
f'(x)= -1, if x> 4

f'(x) does not exist at x= 0 or 4.

Obviously f' is never 0 for x not between 0 and 4. 6x2- 30x+ 6= 0 is the same as x2- 5x+ 6= (x-6)(x+1) 0 has roots
-1 and 6 which are not between 0 and 4. The only possible local max and min are at 0 and 4!

for x close to 0 but positive, f'(x) is close to 36> 0 so f is increasing to the right of x= 0. On the other hand, for x< 0, f(x)= -x> 0= f(0). Clearly, x= 0 is a local minimum.

for x close to4 but less than 4, f'(x) is close to 24- 120+ 36< 0 so f is decreasing for x< 4. For x> 4 but close to 4, f(x) is close to 212= f(4) but less. Clearly, x= 4 is a local maximum.
 
but isn't 6x^2-30x+36=x^2-5x+6=(x-3)(x-2)

which would place its roots inside the given domain?

In addition, since in the original fuction, the domain of the middle function is "x greater than/equal to 0, less than/equal to 4", wouldn't that mean that x=0 and x=4 are within the parameters of the fuction, which would mean that f'(x) would also be defined at those points?

Thanks a lot for the reply, it's already cleared a lot of things for me. If you could just answer some of my last questions here, that'd be great.

Thanks.
 
You should be abel to see by inspection that as x \to -\infty, f(x) \to \infty, and likewise as x \to \infty, f(x) \to -\infty, so there are no absolute minima or maxima. Sisyphus, you're right, HallsofIvy miscalculated, and on (0,4), f'(x) = 6(x-3)(x-2). So, on (0,4), f''(x) = 12x - 30. f''(2) = -6, and f''(3) = 6, so 2 is a local maximum, and 3 is a local minimum.

Just because f is defined at 0 and 4 doesn't mean f'' is defined there. You should know this. For example, the absolute value function is defined at 0, since |0| = 0, but it has no derivative at 0. So you have to "manually" check the behaviour of the function around 0 and 4.

f(0) = 0, f(4) = 32. It's easy to see that for x < 0 but close to 0, f(x) > 0. For x > 0 but close to 0, f(x) = x(2x² - 15x + 36). x is positive, and since x is small, (2x² - 15x + 36) is approximately 36, i.e. whatever it is, it is positive, so f(x) is positive. So 0 is another local minimum. For x > 4 but close to 4, it's easy to see that f(x) is close to 212 which is greater than f(4) = 32. You can also see that for x < 4 but close to 4, f'(x) is close to 6*4² - 30*4 + 36 = 12 > 0, so f is increasing as it approaches 4 from the left. So 4 is not a local minimum or maximum (because to the right, the f is clearly larger than f(4), and on the left, since f increases as it approaches 4 and f is continuous on [0,4], f must be smaller than f(4)).
 
BTW, the tex for

...-x , if x<0
f(x)={ 2x^3-15x^2+36x , if 0<x<4, or x=0, or x=4
... 216-x , if x>4

is:

f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{cc}-x,&\mbox{ if } x< 0\\2x^3-15x^2+36x , & \mbox{ if } 0\leq x\leq 4 \\216-x, & \mbox{ if }x>4\end{array}\right.

which looks like this:

f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{cc}-x,&amp;\mbox{ if }<br /> x&lt; 0\\2x^3-15x^2+36x , &amp; \mbox{ if } 0\leq x\leq 4 \\216-x, &amp; \mbox{ if }x&gt;4\end{array}\right.
 
Recall that the derivative of a function, say f(x), at a point x=a is given by

f^{\prime} (a) = \lim_{x\rightarrow a} \frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}

which exists if and only if the left- and right-hand limits exist and are equal so that for the above function

f_+^{\prime} (0) = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+} \frac{f(x)-f(0)}{x-0} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+} \frac{(2x^3-15x^2+36x) -0}{x-0}= \lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+} 2x^2-15x+36 = 36

but

f_-^{\prime} (0) = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0^-} \frac{f(x)-f(0)}{x-0} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0^-} \frac{(-x) -0}{x-0}= \lim_{x\rightarrow 0^-} -1=-1

so that f^{\prime}(0) does not exist, note that f_{-}^{\prime}(a)\mbox{ and }f_{+}^{\prime}(a) are called the left- and right-hand derivatives of f(x) at x=a (and, if equal, are then equal to the derivative f^{\prime}(a), similar to left- and right-hand limits).

Try calculating the left- and right-hand derivatives of f(x) at x=4.
 

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