Difficult Problem with Matrices

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving matrices and column vectors. The user initially struggled to compute A^2 from a column vector of degree 3, but after switching to a degree 2 vector, they successfully derived that A^2 equals A. They confirmed this result and expressed interest in extending the solution to degree 3. Other participants suggested that there might be a general solution applicable to any vector dimension, but one user noted that finding a general solution would require significant effort. The conversation highlights the collaborative effort to solve a complex matrix problem.
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Homework Statement
Let M be a colum vector (not a null vector).Let A=(M M^T)/(M^T M)
Then A is
a)involuntary b)nilvoluntary c)identity d)idempotent
Relevant Equations
Idempotent Matrix:A^2=A
Involuntary Matrix:A^2=I
Nilvoluntary Matrix:A^2=0
I assumed a column vector of degree 3 and then calculated A from the given condition.But after solving it i tried to find A2 and then I got stuck as none of the options seem to match.
Please help.
I think i will have to learn LATEX.🙁🙁
 
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Physics lover said:
Homework Statement:: Let M be a colum vector (not a null vector).Let A=(M M^T)/(M^T M)
Then A is
a)involuntary b)nilvoluntary c)identity d)idempotent
Relevant Equations:: Idempotent Matrix:A^2=A
Involuntary Matrix:A^2=I
Nilvoluntary Matrix:A^2=0

I assumed a column vector of degree 3 and then calculated A from the given condition.But after solving it i tried to find A2 and then I got stuck as none of the options seem to match.
Please help.
I think i will have to learn LATEX.🙁🙁
Better to start with vector of degree 2.
 
PeroK said:
Better to start with vector of degree 2.
Ok so I did that but I am still stuck.
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Physics lover said:
ok so I did that but i am still stuck
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/260171
That link leads nowhere. It can't be hard to work it out for a vector ##(a, b)##, surely?
 
That's good so far. Now all you need is ##A^2##.
 
PeroK said:
That link leads nowhere. It can't be hard to work it out for a vector ##(a, b)##, surely?
That's why i deleted it.
I didn't get what you said.Shall i take numbers in matrix instead of variabled?
 
PeroK said:
That's good so far. Now all you need is ##A^2##.
I calculated it but that's not matching with any option.
 
PeroK said:
That's good so far. Now all you need is ##A^2##.
But how will i find A2?
Shall i find out the squares of numerator and denominator separately?
 
  • #10
Physics lover said:
But how will i find A2?
Shall i find out the squares of numerator and denominator separately?
The denominator is just a number. You can leave that outside the matrix. Just square the matrix in the numerator and see what you get.
 
  • #11
PeroK said:
The denominator is just a number. You can leave that outside the matrix. Just square the matrix in the numerator and see what you get.
oh yes I got it.By taking (a2+b2) common I got A2=A.Thanks a lot for the help.And is it correct now?
 
  • #12
Physics lover said:
oh yes I got it.By taking (a2+b2) common I got A2=A.Thanks a lot for the help.And is it correct now?
That proves it for 2x2 matrices.
 
  • #13
PeroK said:
That proves it for 2x2 matrices.
so shall i try for degree 3 too?
 
  • #14
Physics lover said:
so shall i try for degree 3 too?
It's up to you. It's your question!

There might be a quick way to prove that for any vector dimension.
 
  • #15
PeroK said:
It's up to you. It's your question!

There might be a quick way to prove that for any vector dimension.
ok I proved it for degree 3 too.But can you tell me the general solution.
That would be a great help.😊😊
 
  • #16
Physics lover said:
ok I proved it for degree 3 too.But can you tell me the general solution.
That would be a great help.😊😊
I haven't looked for a general solution. It's too much effort!
 
  • #17
PeroK said:
I haven't looked for a general solution. It's too much effort!
ok no problem.
Thanks a lot for the help.
 
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