Diffraction Limit Sample for Microscope

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of observing the diffraction limit in light microscopy, specifically in relation to the Rayleigh criterion and other related criteria. Participants explore potential samples and methods to achieve this observation, including the use of various lenses and biological samples.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to observe the diffraction limit with a light microscope and discusses the limitations of available samples, such as an OLED screen and MEMS microphones.
  • Another participant inquires about the numerical aperture (NA) of the lens and suggests using cheek epithelial cells as a sample, which may contain objects below the diffraction limit.
  • A participant confirms the NA of their lens and questions whether the epithelial cells themselves or the objects within them are sub-diffraction limit.
  • Further suggestions include using diatoms, microspheres, and soot as potential samples for observing diffraction effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on suitable samples for observing the diffraction limit, with no consensus on the best approach or the characteristics of the samples discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific numerical apertures and lens types, but there is no resolution on the effectiveness of the proposed samples or methods for achieving the desired observations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in microscopy techniques, particularly those exploring the limits of resolution and diffraction in light microscopy.

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Hi all,

So, I'm trying to "hit" the diffraction limit (i.e. view Rayleigh criterion, or Abbe or Sparrow criterion) with my light microscope . Bought the scope off amazon..it's a typical AmScope that has 2000x magnification limit... But the trouble is I can't find a good sample of two spots.

I used my OLED screen on my phone...but the pixels are 85 microns apart...which my microscope can easily resolve.

Then I turned to MEMS Microsphones http://memsjournal.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345225f869e20147e315f8a1970b-pi

which i have a few samples of...the perforation holes are 10.5 microns in diatemer, separated by approx 5.56 microns. My scope can easily resolve them.


Preparing two small holes 100-600nm apart from one another would be likely too difficult for me to create.

any ideas on how to view Diffraction Limit, or rayleighs criterion, etc?

I was thinking maybe slides created for Two Slits Interference experiments.


Thank you,
 
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What's the numerical aperture of your lens?

Something simple to try: swab the inside of your cheek with a q-tip, and wipe the q-tip on a slide. Add a drop of water, cover with a coverslip, and you'll have hundreds of epithelial cells to look at, full of objects below the diffraction limit. Other objects: diatoms, microspheres, soot.
 
NA = .1 though I have other lens.

These are the lens i have: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SnU8iFrNL.jpg

the red one on the right is .1, I can vary from there.

Re the Epithelial cells: so the cells themselves are sub-diffraction limit? Or the things inside them are?

Thank you for your reply.
 
entropy111 said:
NA = .1 though I have other lens.

These are the lens i have: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SnU8iFrNL.jpg

the red one on the right is .1, I can vary from there.

Re the Epithelial cells: so the cells themselves are sub-diffraction limit? Or the things inside them are?

Thank you for your reply.

The things inside- your set of lenses are well-suited for looking at cells, either from your mouth or from plants- try peeling off a thin layer from an onion, for example.
 

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