Diffusion eq. with periodic BC using method of images

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the diffusion equation with periodic boundary conditions using the method of images. The original poster is tasked with finding the solution T(x,t) given the initial condition T(x,0)=δ(x) and is limited to using the method of images, which complicates the approach.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the method of images to the problem but is uncertain about how to incorporate the periodic boundary conditions. They express confusion about the implications of transforming the problem from a line to a circle.
  • Some participants clarify that the periodic boundary conditions imply the function repeats every L units, but questions remain about how this affects the mirroring process in the method of images.
  • There is a discussion about the properties of the method of images and the nature of the Gaussian solution T_g(x,t) related to the diffusion equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the boundary conditions and the method of images. Some guidance has been offered regarding the periodic nature of the problem, but there is still uncertainty about the implementation details and properties of the method.

Contextual Notes

The original poster is limited to using the method of images and is seeking clarification on how to apply it under the specified periodic boundary conditions. There is an acknowledgment of the need for additional resources to understand the method better.

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Homework Statement


Considering the periodic boundary conditions (given below) I am supposed to find the solution T(x,t) with the initial condition T(x,0)=[tex]\delta[/tex](x) Also I am limited to use method of images so I can't use separation of variables unfortunately.

Homework Equations


The boundary conditions are give by:
[tex]T(x=-L/2,t)=T(x=L/2,t)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial T}{\partial x}(x=-L/2)=\frac{\partial T}{\partial x}(x=L/2)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I've only started and for the initial condition using method of images I get:

[tex]T(x,t)=\sum{(-1)^{n}\ T_{g}(x+n*L,t)}[/tex]

where the sum goes from -infinity to infinity.

My problem is how to implement the periodic boundary conditions into the problem.
In my textbook it says that using theese kind of boundary conditions in 1-D is equivalent to transforming the coordinates from a line to a circle. What does that mean?

I'd much appreciate it if you gave me a hint on how to solve this

Thanks
/Simon
 
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Breuno said:
The boundary conditions are give by:
[tex]T(x=-L/2,t)=T(x=L/2,t)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial T}{\partial x}(x=-L/2)=\frac{\partial T}{\partial x}(x=L/2)[/tex]

In my textbook it says that using theese kind of boundary conditions in 1-D is equivalent to transforming the coordinates from a line to a circle. What does that mean?

Hi Simon! Welcome to PF! :smile:

It just means that under those boundary conditions, the function repeats itself whenever x increases by L.

So it's the same as a function on a circle with perimeter L. :smile:
 
Thanks for the welcome =)

Ok so the function repeats itself when x increases by L. How do I use this when "mirroring"?

Since the delta-function has alternating signs (regarding the initial condition) for every other mirror image. Does this goes for the BC as well?

A lot of confusion here since I don't know the exact properties of the method of images. If anyone has a link where it is explained I'd appreciate it :P
 
Breuno said:

I've only started and for the initial condition using method of images I get:

[tex]T(x,t)=\sum{(-1)^{n}\ T_{g}(x+n*L,t)}[/tex]

where the sum goes from -infinity to infinity.



What exactly is [itex]T_{g}(x+n*L,t)[/itex]? I assume you are summing over n?

What x interval are you trying to find the solution on? [-L/2,L/2] perhaps? The method of images entails adding additional "image sources" outside of the region that you are looking for a solution on. These extra sources are placed such that the solution T(x,t) due to all of the sources will satisfy the boundary conditions.
 
Yea sorry I forgot to write that I sum over n. Tg is just the gaussian solution to the diffusion eq. And [tex]\int^{-\infty}_{\infty} Tg(x,t)dx=1[/tex]
 
Okay, so

[tex]T_g(x,t)=(4 \pi kt )^{-\frac{1}{2}}e^{\frac{-x^2}{4kt}}[/tex]

where [itex]k[/itex] is the diffusion constant?

You know that using the method of images is going to involve adding image sources, so say you place one at [itex]x=x_0[/itex] such that [itex]T(x,0;x_0)=\delta (x-x_0)[/itex] what then would [itex]T(x,t;x_0)[/itex] due to just that source be?
 

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