Dimension of Hilbert space (quantum mechanics)

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The discussion revolves around determining the dimension of the Hilbert space for quantum states characterized by specific quantum numbers, particularly focusing on the addition of angular momentum in quantum mechanics.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between quantum numbers and the dimension of the Hilbert space, discussing the role of basis vectors derived from spin and angular momentum.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek validation of their reasoning. Guidance has been offered regarding the proper counting of basis vectors and the distinction between different representations of angular momentum.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the values of the spin quantum number, which affects the interpretation of the problem. Participants are encouraged to review the addition of angular momenta as part of their exploration.

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Homework Statement


Consider the states with the quantum numbers n = l = 1 and s = 1/2
Let
J = L + S
What is the dimension of the Hilbert space to describe all states with these
quantum numbers?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I believe the dimension of the Hilbert space is dependent on the number of base vectors.

If I am correct, the 'spin-angle functions' would give me the number of bases vector, and thus the dimension of the Hilbert-space.

This is dependent on the quantum numbers s and ms, l and ml and j and mj.
s=1/2, so ms=-1/2 , +1/2
l=1, so ml = -1, 0, +1
j= 1/2 or 3/2, so mj = -1/2 , 1/2 OR -3/2, -1/2, +1/2, +3/2

For j=1/2 you get 2*3*2=12 different combinations, and for j=3/2 it's 2*3*4=24 different combinations.
This gives 36 different base vectors, and therefore the dimension of Hilbert space would be 36?

I have no idea how to go from here. I have the book "introduction to quantum mechanics" by D.J. Griffiths.

If someone could help me out, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Haye said:

Homework Statement


Consider the states with the quantum numbers n = l = 1 and s = 1
Let
J = L + S
What is the dimension of the Hilbert space to describe all states with these
quantum numbers?

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution


I believe the dimension of the Hilbert space is dependent on the number of base vectors.
s=1/2 gives two of these base vectors, with m=±1/2.

I have no idea how to go from here. I have the book "introduction to quantum mechanics" by D.J. Griffiths.

If someone could help me out, it would be greatly appreciated.
Is that supposed to be S=1 or S=1/2? The problem statement you gave said S=1, but you seem to be assuming S=1/2.

Review the addition of angular momenta in your book.
 
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s should be 1/2, sorry for that. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I'm a lot closer to the answer now (I think so, atleast).

If I am correct, the 'spin-angle functions' would give me the number of bases vector, and thus the dimension of the Hilbert-space.

This is dependent on the quantum numbers s and ms, l and m and j and mj.
s=1/2, so ms=-1/2 , +1/2
l=1, so ml = -1, 0, +1
j= 1/2 or 3/2, so mj = -1/2 , 1/2 OR -3/2, -1/2, +1/2, +3/2

For j=1/2 you get 2*3*2=12 different combinations, and for j=3/2 it's 2*3*4=24 different combinations.
This gives 36 different base vectors, and therefore the dimension of Hilbert space would be 36?

I am completely unsure if my logic is correct, and I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me if I am wrong or not.

vela, thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction at least. I feel a lot less lost than I was.
 
You're over-counting. The Hilbert space is spanned by either basis vectors ##\lvert l, m_l; s, m_s \rangle## or basis vectors ##\lvert j, m_j \rangle##. In other words, you can look at the individual angular momenta or you can look at the combined angular momenta, but not both at the same time. Also, take the state ##\lvert m_l = 1, m_s = +1/2 \rangle##, for instance. Its the same state as ##\lvert m_j = 3/2 \rangle##.

If you count either set up, you'll see you have 6 basis vectors, so the dimension is 6.
 
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Ah, that makes much more sense, J=L+S ofcourse. I understand it know, thank you so much for your help (:
 

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