Calculating Dipole Moment for Spherical Surface of Radius R

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The discussion focuses on calculating the dipole moment for a spherical surface with a surface charge density described by sigma = k cos(θ). The correct integration setup involves using R cos(θ) for the position vector in the dipole moment formula, as the z-coordinate of each charge element is R cos(θ). The area element used in the integration is confirmed to be correct. Participants also discuss the challenges of completing the problem set in Griffith's textbook, expressing concern about the number of questions before moving on to the next chapter. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the geometric factors in dipole moment calculations.
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Griffith' E&M problem 3.28 page 151

Given a spherical surface of radius R which carries a surface charge \simga = k \cos\theta

Calculate the dipole moment of this charge distribtuion

well using this equation

\vec{p} = \int \vec{r'} \sigma(\theta') dA' = \int Rk \cos\theta R^2 \sin\theta d\theta d\phi

but i was told that this setup is wrong that - tat the first term in the integration which i have as R should be R \cos\theta why is that??

what about my area element is that correct?

Please help

thank you in advance!
 
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A simple dipole moment of two charges is the magnitude of the charge times the distance between them pointing from negative to positive. Taken from their center of charge that would be the sum of the products of the charges times the position vector from the center. You are adding a bunch of charges that are positive in the upper half space and negative in the lower half with cylindrical symmetry. You need the z coordinates of each bit of charge times the charge. The z coordinate is R*cosθ. The area element is OK.
 
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OlderDan said:
A simple dipole moment of two charges is the magnitude of the charge times the distance between them pointing from negative to positive. Taken from their center of charge that would be the sum of the products of the charges times the position vector from the center. You are adding a bunch of charges that are positive in the upper half plane and negative in the lower half with cylindrical symmetry. You need the z coordinates of each bit of charge times the charge. The z coordinate is R*cosθ. The area element is OK.

that makes sense now thanks!

do you have griffith's textbook
what do you think are 'good' questions to do in the 'more problem' section for chapter 3?
15 questions seems rather arduous since i would liek to go onto chapter 4...
 
stunner5000pt said:
that makes sense now thanks!

do you have griffith's textbook
what do you think are 'good' questions to do in the 'more problem' section for chapter 3?
15 questions seems rather arduous since i would liek to go onto chapter 4...
No I don't have the book
 
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