Direction of frictional force Help

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the direction of the frictional force in various scenarios presented through linked images. Participants are exploring the principles of friction in the context of static and kinetic situations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to identify the direction of friction based on the motion of objects and the forces acting on them. Questions arise regarding the relationship between friction and normal force, as well as the impact of velocity on frictional direction.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about their interpretations of frictional force directions, particularly in specific cases. There is an ongoing exploration of concepts, with some guidance provided regarding the relationship between motion and friction. However, no consensus has been reached on all points, particularly concerning the scenarios presented in questions 1 and 4.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the definitions and relationships between frictional force and normal force, as well as the implications of decreasing velocity on friction. The discussion is constrained by the need for visual context from the linked images, which are not available in the text.

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Direction of frictional force! Help!

Homework Statement



What is the direction of the frictional force for each question? OR is there not enough info given to answer the question?

1) http://www.learning.physics.dal.ca/library/Graphics/Gtype10/block01-19.gif
2) http://www.learning.physics.dal.ca/library/Graphics/Gtype10/block01-34.gif
3) http://www.learning.physics.dal.ca/library/Graphics/Gtype10/block01-17.gif
4) http://www.learning.physics.dal.ca/library/Graphics/Gtype10/block01-07.gif
5) http://www.learning.physics.dal.ca/library/Graphics/Gtype10/block01-01.gif
6) http://www.learning.physics.dal.ca/library/Graphics/Gtype10/block01-35.gif

Homework Equations



frictional force concepts

The Attempt at a Solution



1) Can't tell, because Fnet is negative but magnitude of weight and F is unknown?
2) Friction up, need it to keep block static against weight and F pushing down.
3) Friction to the right?, because it opposes the direction of motion?
4) Friction to the left, because friction is always perpendicular to the normal force?
5) Friction up, need it to keep block static against weight pushing down.
6) Can't tell, because the magnitude of weight and F is unknown.

I find the direction of frictional force really difficult to grasp.
Feel free to correct me at any point. Thanks
 
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Everything seems good to me except 1 and 4.

For 4 how do you get left?
 
Just remember : Direction of frictional force on the object is opposite to the direction in which the object is moving or tending to move.
 
1. Friction down, because it opposes motion? Is this correct? If so, what effect does the decreasing velocity have?

4. Common sense tells me friction would act upwards but my book says the frictional force is ALWAYS perpendicular to the normal force, so I am confused.
 
jumptheair said:
1. Friction down, because it opposes motion? Is this correct?

yes.

If so, what effect does the decreasing velocity have?

that means that the acceleration is downwards and the net force is downwards.

4. Common sense tells me friction would act upwards but my book says the frictional force is ALWAYS perpendicular to the normal force, so I am confused.

But the normal force is to the left... so how can the frictional force be to the left?
 
Oh right! I was thinking that normal force is in opposite direction to gravity, but it's the surface. Thanks!
 

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