Directors and the first note of a piece of music

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role of conductors in initiating musical performances, particularly how they signal the start of a piece and the methods musicians use to synchronize their playing. It touches on various contexts, including orchestras and marching bands.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that conductors have unique habits for signaling the start of a performance, which musicians must adapt to.
  • There is speculation that conductors may communicate cues to musicians that are not audible to the audience.
  • One participant notes that the first note of a piece is often long, which may allow for slight timing discrepancies among musicians without noticeable impact.
  • Another participant describes the conductor's cue as typically being a nod, especially in smaller groups where a lead player may take charge.
  • A participant shares their experience in an orchestra, detailing how visual commands from the conductor are crucial for synchronization, particularly during the initial measures.
  • There is mention of the multitasking required by musicians to follow both the conductor and their section leads while keeping time with the percussion.
  • A humorous remark is made about the stereotype of conductors yelling at orchestras in German, which introduces a light-hearted perspective on the conductor's role.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that conductors provide visual cues for starting a performance, but there are varying opinions on the specifics of how these cues are delivered and perceived. The discussion includes both serious insights and humorous takes, indicating a mix of perspectives without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the visibility of cues and the nature of the first notes in different musical contexts remain unaddressed. The discussion does not resolve how different styles of conducting may affect synchronization among musicians.

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When I watch videos of directors beginning a musical performance, I usually cannot tell how they designate a particular instant of time when the musicians are supposed to start playing. Perhaps each conductor has his own habits and the musicians must get used to them? Or perhaps the director is saying something to the musicians that the audience can't hear?

Another thought is that the first note of a piece of music is often a relatively long note so it isn't noticeable if the musicians begin playing it at slightly different times. If the first note was something like a sixteenth note followed by a quarter note rest, I think it would be hard to synchronize a big group of musicians who were looking for a visual signal when to start. According to that theory, music for a marching band would tend to begin with a long note or peharps with only the instruments in the formation played by musicians who can see the conductor.
 
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The conductor provides the cue, usually a nod. in a smaller group without a conductor, one player will take the role, like the 1st violin in a string quartet
 
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When I played horn in college orchestra, we relied on visual commands from the conductor to begin playing the score. As you say, each conductor provided visual cues according to their different styles.

At the beginning of a piece the conductor waited until the players 'settled' then visually gathered everyone together with a dramatic upward flourish. We attacked in unison on the down swing. After the beginning measures, the conductor signaled each section such as brass, woodwinds, percussion and choir via head nods and body language while keeping time with wand, arm and hand motions.

Within each section we followed the lead instrument as mentioned above; splitting attention among the conductor, section lead, and the written score while synchronizing our tapping foot with the percussion section. This multitasking served well to keep the orchestra synced during times when the conductor concentrated on a soloist or when playing without a conductor, particularly during rehearsal.

In my limited experience with marching band we synchronized on the tall staff of the drum major ahead and the guide at the leftmost position of each rank.
 
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I thought the job of the conductor was to scream at the orchestra in German?
 

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