Discover the Magic of Soap Making: Experiment with Different Solutions at Home

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the process of soap making, specifically focusing on creating various cleaning solutions such as dishwashing detergent, carpet cleaning solutions, and car cleaning soap. Participants explore the ingredients, methods, and tools necessary for experimentation in soap making.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to start a home project for making different soap solutions but lacks direction and information.
  • Another participant shares a resource with various soap recipes that could be useful for learning and experimentation.
  • A participant explains that the soap-making process involves saponification, which requires oil and a base (lye), and emphasizes the need for safety due to the caustic nature of lye.
  • One participant notes that while basic soap is made from a base, oil, and water, creating carpet cleaners is more complex and may not follow the same simple recipe.
  • A question is raised regarding whether carpet cleaning solutions derive from the basic soap recipe, which is met with a counterpoint stating that most commercial detergents differ significantly from simple soap formulations.
  • A suggestion is made to consult specific literature on functional materials and emulsifiers for a deeper understanding of cleaning solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between basic soap recipes and commercial cleaning solutions, indicating a divergence in understanding and approach to soap making.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the complexity of creating effective carpet cleaning solutions compared to simpler soap formulations, highlighting the need for further research and clarification on chemical compounds involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in home chemistry projects, soap making, or cleaning product formulation may find this discussion beneficial.

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I want to start a home project to creating different soap solutions. Dish washing detergent, carpet cleaning solution, and car cleaning soap are my main focuses. I have no idea where to start as my internet research is getting no where.

What is soap made of and how can I experiment with different solutions?
What kind of tools will be needed?
 
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The process is called saponification, using oil and base ( lye ). Lye can be either sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide depending on the recipee and type of soap desired.

It is not as simple as it looks to make a suitable soap, since you are dealing with a caustic substance ( lye ). Depending upon your process you may be heating the oil of fat so do that in a safe way.

Some people make this into a hobby soap making business.
 
I have completed a little research and it seems that soap is made from a base+oil+water. Creating a carpet cleaner is more of creating a shampoo. Base (lye) and and a oil seems to be the way you create hand soaps or dish washing soaps. Which is very useful, figuring out the chemical compounds in a carpet cleaning solution seem to be allot more complex. I really want to start creating many of these types of chemicals but cannot find a starting point.
 
When carpet cleaning companies create solutions does it all derive from the basic recipe of base+oil+water=soap?
 
Klutch1 said:
When carpet cleaning companies create solutions does it all derive from the basic recipe of base+oil+water=soap?

Almost never. Simple soaps based on fats and oils are rarely used for the purposes you are interested in. Most detergents are alkyl or aryl sulfonates or are polyethoxylated phenols or alcohols.

A good place to start looking is McCutcheon's" Functional Materials" and "Emulsifiers and Detergents".
http://shop.gomc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TMC&Category_Code=mccutch
 

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