Discovering the Formula for Σ (i=1, n) √i

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a general formula for the summation of square roots, specifically Σ (i=1, n) √i. The original poster expresses a desire to establish a formula similar to those known for summing integers and their squares.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the sum of square roots to known formulas for summing integers and squares. Some participants question the validity of the proposed formula and its implications regarding rationality.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints and others expressing skepticism about the original poster's formula. There is a recognition that the problem may be more complex than initially thought, with references to established results by mathematicians like Ramanujan.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about notation clarity and the nature of the results, particularly concerning the rationality of the sum of square roots. The original poster's formula is viewed as an intuitive guess rather than a proven result.

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Homework Statement


Calculate Σ (i=1, n) √i

I want to write general formula, then use it for any n (like we have for Σ (i=1, n) i

Homework Equations


Σ (i=1, n) i = n (n+1) / 2
Σ (i=1, n) i^2 = n (n+1)(2n +1) / 6

The Attempt at a Solution



Comparing formulas provided above: I assume the answer must be: (n (n+1) / 2) * (3/(2n +1))

Is it correct? if yes how can I prove appropriately.
 
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I don't understand your notation. What do the square brackets mean? I guess i[2] means i2 = i^2, but what is i[1][/2]? The square root? ##\sqrt i##?
If yes: No, your formula doesn't work.
 
Yes, it means √i. I tried to use "super script" function, but it didn't work as I see.
 
@mfb Can you give me a hint to get a correct answer?
 
I highly doubt that your answer is correct because your answer is always a rational number, whereas the sum of square roots is not necessarily rational.
 
This is a much more difficult problem than the sum of some integer powers of numbers.
There is a formula, found by Ramanujan, but it needs some more work.
 
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AspiringResearcher said:
I highly doubt that your answer is correct because your answer is always a rational number, whereas the sum of square roots is not necessarily rational.

Yes, its incorrect.
It was kind of intuitive guess
 

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