Discrete Math Course: Conveying Material & Textbook Prep

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The discussion centers around a student's experience in their first discrete math course, highlighting dissatisfaction with the professor's teaching style and the textbook's inadequacy in preparing students for problem-solving, particularly with proofs. The student expresses concern about posting questions on a forum without having attempted a solution, fearing potential infractions. Responses clarify that while a full solution isn't necessary, demonstrating an effort or thought process is important for receiving help. Suggestions for attempts include listing relevant theorems, working through simpler cases, drawing diagrams, and identifying knowns and unknowns. The emphasis is on the value of showing willingness to engage with the problem, rather than needing to provide a complete solution upfront.
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Hello,

This semester I am taking my first discrete math course. I am thoroughly enjoying the material, but am dreading the professor and textbook. The consensus amongst my classmates is that the professor is excessively convoluted in his conveyance of the material, and that the textbook does not prepare you for the questions at the end of the chapters. Most of the questions that involve proofs require that I follow along with the solution, but I am generally able to understand what the author is doing in each step. My question is, if I don't understand a problem, that is, if I don't even faintest clue where to begin, and I can't follow the solution from the textbook, would I get an infraction for posting the problem on physicsforums without having written anything in the "attempt at a solution" section?
 
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I've been thinking, did I perhaps post this in the wrong area?
 
Also, if I asked a question, I wouldn't expect someone to just give me the answer, but to prod me in the right direction.
 
No i don't see a problem with that, in fact, i am also in discrete "structures" right now and i have asked questions about it in the homework help...i would try to attempt the solution but even if you absolutely have no idea where to start i would still post it...

If you would like to work together on a discrete problem just PM me anytime...
 
Bashyboy said:
Hello,

This semester I am taking my first discrete math course. I am thoroughly enjoying the material, but am dreading the professor and textbook. The consensus amongst my classmates is that the professor is excessively convoluted in his conveyance of the material, and that the textbook does not prepare you for the questions at the end of the chapters. Most of the questions that involve proofs require that I follow along with the solution, but I am generally able to understand what the author is doing in each step. My question is, if I don't understand a problem, that is, if I don't even faintest clue where to begin, and I can't follow the solution from the textbook, would I get an infraction for posting the problem on physicsforums without having written anything in the "attempt at a solution" section?

Not writing anything in the "attempt of solution" will not be allowed. But you seem to think that you need to provide half the solution already if you want to get help. This is far from true: all we want is to see that you're willing to attempt the problem yourself.

An attempt can consist out of many things, for example:

  • List relevant theorems and examples from your textbook that sound similar.
  • Work out the solution in easy/extreme cases. For example, if it wants you to count how many ways we can arrange n balls, try to work out the solution for n=1,2,3,4.
  • Draw a picture (if relevant)
  • Identify knowns and unknowns.
  • Give solutions that you know are flawed and explain why they are flawed.
  • etc.
 
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