Discrete Mathematics Absolute Value Proof

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The problem involves proving the statement that for all real numbers x and y, the product of their absolute values equals the absolute value of their product, |x| times |y| = |xy|. This falls under the subject area of discrete mathematics, specifically focusing on properties of absolute values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers breaking the proof into four cases based on the signs of x and y, questioning if this approach is appropriate. Other participants suggest that only three cases are necessary and discuss the equivalence of certain cases.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring the validity of the original poster's approach and clarifying the number of cases needed for the proof. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the case analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the formal proof requirements and the implications of different cases based on the signs of x and y. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to start the proof formally.

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Homework Statement


Prove the following statement:
For all real numbers x and y, |x| times |y| = |xy|



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I really don't know how to start this as a formal proof.


The Attempt at a Solution


I was thinking I'd have to break it down into four cases and logically prove that the statement is true because no matter what, x times y is going to have the same numerical value as it's opposite number (of course beside it being negative) because once you take the absolute value, it's going to be positive anyways.
Case 1: Suppose both x and y are positive real numbers.
Case 2: Suppose x is a negative real number and y is a positive real number.
Case 3: Suppose x is a positive real number and y is a negative real number.
Case 4: Suppose both x and y are positive.

Am I on the right track or am I going in the wrong direction?
 
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if you want to do cases you only need to do 3. You can WLOG two of them together.
 
Do you mean cases 2 and 3 then?
 
Yes, the situation where a> 0 and b< 0 is exactly the same as a< 0 and b>0. However, I would not discourage you from considering the two cases separately. You are completely correct to argue that there are 2 cases for x and 2 cases for y and so (2)(2)= 4 cases altogether.
 

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