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Oh thanks, what do you mean by: "I went the upgrade path since if anything went badly wrong I still would have the clean install option." ? do you mean you could go back to 7 and then clean install 10?
Maybe you needed to run as administrator (i.e. right click > Run as administrator) -- even though logged in, in an administrator account?HallsofIvy said:When I tried to reload them from the disks, I got an error message telling me that I did not have the authority to do that and should reenter as an "administrator". Since this is my own computer I was entered as "administrator" (I went to the "control panel" file to make sure of that).
DiracPool said:I like this idea. If there's anything I hate it's having to update the learning curve every three years. I'd probably still be using Windows XP if they didn't stop supporting it. If it works, don't fix it
Same thing with Microsoft Word. It's a word processor, you type on it. As long as they have the cut and paste function, I'm happy. I used to type on the green monitors back in the day and use a dot-matrix printer. It doesn't take much to satisfy me. Why do I have to learn a new word processor every three years?
To be honest, though, I actually kind of like WIndows 8.1. I have an ASUS WIndows 7 laptop and a Samsung Windows 8.1. laptop, and I just recently found a sound driver on the Samsung that didn't put up that hearing warning sound every time you put the volume up over 42. It took me over a year to find this driver because I didn't want to use the standard Windows sound driver, which stinks. So, I'm finally comfortable with my setup and now this?
Plus, I read on their website that they plan to issue support for 8.1 through 2023? I'm set. Where's the compelling reason to upgrade? They really seem to be pushing it, though, every time I've logged in in the past week that little window in the lower right corner hasn't been dormant, it's been giving me a popup saying to get it while it's hot. Why are they so eager for this?
HyperTechno said:Well I very much agree with you. I upgraded to Win 10 From Win 8.1 and well I kind of liked it so much. Well the user interface is very pleasant and kind of familiar and easy to use and I was really surprised about it. But I had to revert back to Win 8.1...
harborsparrow said:I also loved Windows 8.1; it was fast, stable and well-behaved. I'm happy with the Windows 10 interface, but I hate that I cannot fully control when the updates decide to come down. This is a mistake on Microsoft's part. My older Dell laptop will sort of freeze sometimes; then I can be 99% certain that Windows is downloading a bunch of updates. I cope by going ahead and rebooting the laptop--which often takes extra minutes as the updates install themselves--but then the delays are alleviated. Very annoying behavior; in all previous versions of Windows, I could determine when they would download, or not. It's a serious loss of autonomy.
However, in defense of Windows 10, recent new updates just made the Start menu and other features even nicer to use, and it has finally settled down and become stable. I don't use the Windows 10 Start menu anyway; I use the StartIsBack third-party add-on, which makes my desktop act just about the same as Windows 7. The machine does boot quickly with Windows 10, and except for the uncontrollable Windows update issue, I am doing quite well with it. Hopefully, it will be the last upgrade in a long time. And it's nice to be able to run the latest and greatest on 5-year-old hardware (I just had to update my RAM to 8 Gb).
Greg Bernhardt said:Windows 10 has been seamless and easy. Easily their best OS since XP.
I was impressed as well! I even bought a windows phone! It certainly has some quirks but they also have ambitious plans integrating apps across platforms. I'd give it 9 out of 10 with a potential for 12! Apple being the 10...cpscdave said:They may have actually gotten it right for a change!
Can you describe your cloning methodology? Either here, or if you think it too off-topic, in a new thread.Svein said:I have updated to Windows 10 in my standard way: Clone my latest working windows installation (Windows 8.1), make sure the clone runs exactly as the original (you now have multiboot of two versions of the same Windows), then upgrade one of them. Afterwards you can boot into the old windows if you are confused by Windows 10.
You can access all the files for either OS on either drive or partition but the executable files would likely need a separate installation from each OS with unique files.meBigGuy said:Does cloning provide for shared data or executable?
I recently bought a laptop with Windows 8.1 on it. It's really annoying for many reasons, not the least of which that it thinks my laptop is a tablet with a touchscreen. (Man, did I scrub my mouse cursor across the screen for the first week when it kept giving me 'helpful' advice about swiping from the edge/corner/butt).cpscdave said:I found myself on almost a daily basis having some annoyance with Windows 8.1
Things just never worked they way they were supposed to.
Since upgrading to Windows 10 in August. I still have some annoyances but they occur maybe once a month instead of everyday.
They may have actually gotten it right for a change!
You would most likely be ecstatic with the results. The desktop is real again and you can put the "start page" back in the start button, If you like that "7" style interface.DaveC426913 said:It has been trying to get me to upgrade to 10 for weeks. Are you suggesting this would be good thing?
Windows 10 is the real deal. They got this one right.DaveC426913 said:Are you suggesting this would be good thing?
There are several tools available for this. I use Paragon Hard Disk Manager 15 Suite (https://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-personal/) since I am constantly fiddling with my disk setup.meBigGuy said:Can you describe your cloning methodology? Either here, or if you think it too off-topic, in a new thread.
cpscdave said:I found myself on almost a daily basis having some annoyance with Windows 8.1
Things just never worked they way they were supposed to.
Since upgrading to Windows 10 in August. I still have some annoyances but they occur maybe once a month instead of everyday.
They may have actually gotten it right for a change!
DaveC426913 said:It has been trying to get me to upgrade to 10 for weeks. Are you suggesting this would be good thing?
rootone said:MS seem to have made it a tradition to release a generally good OS followed by one which is naff,or medioche at best.
This is the latest good one (Windows 9 did not exist, Windows 8 wasn't anything special, 7 was the last generally agreed 'good' upgrade.
Seems like this pattern is to be ended now though, Win 10 will be continually upgraded and so I hear, there are no plans for any major new version at all.
It's just 'Windows' from here onward.
That seems unlikely. New versions of Windows are at least as much about marketing and promotion as they are about technical advancement.rootone said:It's just 'Windows' from here onward.
DaveC426913 said:That seems unlikely. New versions of Windows are at least as much about marketing and promotion as they are about technical advancement.
Pretty hard to market something that isn't new.
True about the startup/shutdown times, I hear rumors about changes in kernel utilization and other things I'm not qualified to comment on but I'm learning day by dayrootone said:One thing I found very noticeable is much faster shutdown and startup times
That was the first thing I noticed. Well besides the 4+ hour install, after the initial setup and everything seats properly 15 seconds my AMD A8 Envy is off, and 10-12 second startup straight to desktop. I was floored. The bad thing was my fan quit and I've had the problem where you can't be fast enough to "catch" the startup hook to change startup features as in safe mode... seems like ages ago, windows 8.1... a blip in windows history. I think now they are going to gear up for pay to play as that is the new norm. They make far more profit giving the entire "program" for free and charging for "services" within it, as tablet apps pioneered...rootone said:One thing I found very noticeable is much faster shutdown and startup times