Windows 10 Upgrade Discussion: Compatibility and Features

[rootone]

Some weird behaviour with graphics card initially, and my sound volume control disappeared.
OK after second reboot though ...

 

[Imager]

I installed last night on a HP Pavilion dm4 laptop i7-620M Dual Core processor from with Windows 7. The install took about three hours but there some questions along the way, so it may have waited on me for a while.

The bad news, my second display (HP 2159m) no longer works and HP doesn’t have a new driver for it. From the number of comments the web, it appears lots different display cards and monitors having this problem. Which means, I can’t be sure just buying a new monitor it will fix it.

I’ve reloaded my ATI Mobility Radeon 5450cards drivers, both new & old, but Windows 10 keeps defaulting to onboard Intel HD Graphics drivers (from 2012).

BTW if you need to quickly find the Control Panel, Administrative Tools, etc. just right click on the start button. Here is a screen shot:

Bottom line, I have a 30 day option to reinstall Windows 7 and if I can’t get a second monitor working, I will take it.

 

[Imager]

The bad news, my second display (HP 2159m) no longer works

As work around, the 9 pin monitor port does work when connected to the external monitor's DVI port.

At least I think that what the manual said it's a DVI port. Unfortunately, the manual disappeared into a mini back hole with a bunch of socks!

 

[HyperTechno]

I have windows 8 in my PC right now. So to get the WIN 10 update , should I update to WIN 8.1? The problem is, I searched the store to get the windows 8.1 update and for some reason it states that my system cannot be updated to WIN 8.1... I'm using genuine windows 8 Professional and my system is up to date. But I haven't got any windows 8.1 update nor windows 10 notification......What should I do now?

 

[HyperTechno]

And If I not be able to upgrade online, the only alternative I have is to download the ISO from somewhere and install it via a USB drive because I do not have a DVD ROM...Do all the motherboards support booting via Pen Drives? Once I tried installing windows 8 via a USB drive but was unsuccessful, that nothing was shown up in the bios screen to accept the booting via the Pen drive......

 

[QuantumCurt]

I upgraded to 10 a few days ago. My upgrade has been really smooth. As far as I can tell, everything carried over correctly. Even save points in Word documents, saved passwords, desktop background, etc. I have no real complaints about the functionality of it yet. The track pad on my laptop feels sluggish since the upgrade, but that could simply be a matter of adjusting the settings or downloading a patch for the laptop. The return of the Start menu is nice, though I haven't had a chance to dig too deep into it yet.

 

[HyperTechno]

I have windows 8 in my PC right now. So to get the WIN 10 update , should I update to WIN 8.1? The problem is, I searched the store to get the windows 8.1 update and for some reason it states that my system cannot be updated to WIN 8.1... I'm using genuine windows 8 Professional and my system is up to date. But I haven't got any windows 8.1 update nor windows 10 notification......What should I do now?

And If I not be able to upgrade online, the only alternative I have is to download the ISO from somewhere and install it via a USB drive because I do not have a DVD ROM...Do all the motherboards support booting via Pen Drives? Once I tried installing windows 8 via a USB drive but was unsuccessful, that nothing was shown up in the bios screen to accept the booting via the Pen drive......

Can some one come up with a solution please?

 

[StevieTNZ]

Can some one come up with a solution please?

First, do you have the folder "$Windows.~BT" under C:\ (or the corresponding drive Windows is installed on) -- turn hidden items on to see it come up?

 

[HyperTechno]

First, do you have the folder "$Windows.~BT" under C:\ (or the corresponding drive Windows is installed on) -- turn hidden items on to see it come up?

Nope!
I don't find that...

 

[StevieTNZ]

Nope!
I don't find that...

Do you have this icon on your computer?

Can some one come up with a solution please?

If the above icon is not showing, try downloading the ISO from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 and mount the ISO (double click it) while still running Windows 8 (i.e. don't put it on a USB and boot from that; click setup.exe after mounting the ISO). See if that works.

 

[russ_watters]

Now I'm having a new problem: Yesterday, I was playing an old Windows XP game, Command and Conquer Tiberium Wars. In the middle of the game, it disappeared and a survey from MS popped-up asking me about my experience upgrading. I thought the game had just minimized, but nope, it was gone. And now when I try to start it, I get an error message from the game, telling me it isn't compatible with my OS! Compatibility mode doesn't help.

Interestingly, after a few more updates, the game works again!

 

[Kostas Tzim]

Greetings, I am reading this conversation so far, but I am really not sure if i should upgrade to WIN 10, any ideas.?

 

[sappho.poiesis]

Hey everyone I signed up for the upgrade, I haven't downloaded it yet but now I'm afraid of the following, I have a lot of games installed, will I be able to. Play them on Windows 10? I'm afraid I won't :(

 

[StevieTNZ]

Hey everyone I signed up for the upgrade, I haven't downloaded it yet but now I'm afraid of the following, I have a lot of games installed, will I be able to. Play them on Windows 10? I'm afraid I won't :(

If you signed up for the upgrade, more than likely Windows 10 has downloaded and is trying to install (but failing -- check Windows Updates).

 

[sappho.poiesis]

No it hasn't, since I currently have no Internet connection :/

 

[TurtleMeister]

Just an update to my post #30. Yes, Windows 10 downloaded (I have the folder $Windows.~bt, all 6GB of it) and since Aug 1 it has been trying to install every day. I clicked on the Windows 10 icon to see if I had a reservation for it. It says I do not. So if you are running Windows 7 and you did not make a reservation for the upgrade, check your update history and look for folder C:\Windows\$Windows.~bt. You may have it and not even know it.

I've done some research and found that the mostly likely culprit is the windows update KB3035583. I uninstalled it this morning and the Windows 10 icon is gone. I won't know until tomorrow if it stops the upgrade attempts. I know one thing though, the computer boots up noticeably faster now.

 

[StevieTNZ]

No it hasn't, since I currently have no Internet connection :/

Oh okay - I assumed you were posting from the computer in question. I guess not.

 

[sappho.poiesis]

Oh okay - I assumed you were posting from the computer in question. I guess not.

Nope, I'm posting from my cellphone.

 

[HyperTechno]

Do you have this icon on your computer?

If the above icon is not showing, try downloading the ISO from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 and mount the ISO (double click it) while still running Windows 8 (i.e. don't put it on a USB and boot from that; click setup.exe after mounting the ISO). See if that works.

There is no such icon either. Alright, I'll try the ISO... Thank you so much...

 

[Kostas Tzim]

Summing up everything that's been said. Are windows 10 worth getting right now? or its better to give microsoft some time to fix the bugs etc.

 

[Chronos]

I would hold off for awhile, MS is still patching 10 and we consumers are beta testing it for them. Win 7 will be supported until 2020.

 

[enorbet]

ping HyperTechno -

For you and anyone else who does not have an optical drive in addition to a BIOS with no viable "Boot USB drive" option there is a lifesaver called PLOP bootloader. It can be installed to anything, even a floppy, and when engaged it appends boot code via a simple bootloader and provides a configurable menu selection including "Boot USB". Explanation can be found here ====> https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/intro.html

 

[enorbet]

Just a heads up - As you know MS has switched to a "free" upgrade format. Be sure to realize that nothing is free and something like the Facebook and Google business plan, the product in "free" is you. In the case of Windows 10 just be sure you know what you are allowing. If you expand the "Reasons We Share Personal Data" section of the EULA you will find this

Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to:

comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies;
protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;
operate and maintain the security of our services, including to prevent or stop an attack on our computer systems or networks; or
protect the rights or property of Microsoft, including enforcing the terms governing the use of the services - however, if we receive information indicating that someone is using our services to traffic in stolen intellectual or physical property of Microsoft, we will not inspect a customer's private content ourselves, but we may refer the matter to law enforcement.

Because the internet has deeply changed almost everything and one of those is the erosion of privacy in order to enter into the collaborative communities now possible, we all have to decide where we draw the line. EULAs by nature are so long and so often full of legalese that few of us bother to read them in full if at all. So hopefully this bit of info is not redundant to most and will help many decide exactly what they will sign up for, at least in this case. If this bothers you, staying with what you have will work for a few more years. Just know what you sign.

 

[TurtleMeister]

@enorbet

Is your quote from the Windows 10 EULA for the released version of Windows 10?

 

[enorbet]

See here ====> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx . Obviously things can change at anytime so be sure to read this section of anything you agree to if you have such concerns. Equally obvious is the underlying fact that Facebook, Google, etc. have been wildly successful at giveaways with such social hooks. Just to be informed is the best we can do since the Internet involves issues and situations that have literally never existed before in the history of mankind. One example is the huge disparity between the laws regarding postal mail and email. This is being invented on-the-fly and off-the-cuff in an entirely unprecedented manner. Safeguards are minimal and primarily up to the user.

 

[TurtleMeister]

Thanks for posting the link. So it's not just Windows 10. It's from the privacy policy that covers many Microsoft products and services. I would advise readers to read the full text in the link and not just the quote.

Update from my previous post. Looks like uninstalling the windows update KB3035583 has stopped the Windows 10 upgrade from executing. This is the first day since Aug 1 that it has not run. I've never installed a new windows OS right when it's released and I'm not going to start with Windows 10. From what I've been reading about it I think I'll stick with Windows 7 for as long as possible.

 

[HyperTechno]

ping HyperTechno -

For you and anyone else who does not have an optical drive in addition to a BIOS with no viable "Boot USB drive" option there is a lifesaver called PLOP bootloader. It can be installed to anything, even a floppy, and when engaged it appends boot code via a simple bootloader and provides a configurable menu selection including "Boot USB". Explanation can be found here ====> https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/intro.html

Thanks for your help... I'll look into it...

 

[sappho.poiesis]

I still don't know what to do :/

 

[StevieTNZ]

I still don't know what to do :/

You could upgrade, and if you find your games don't work revert back to your previous OS.

 

[sappho.poiesis]

You could upgrade, and if you find your games don't work revert back to your previous OS.

How do you do that? :O