Dissociation constant from absorbance

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A 0.120 M sodium picrate solution in 1 M sodium hydroxide showed an absorbance of 0.335, while a 0.300 M picric acid solution had an absorbance of 0.581. The absorbance values were used to calculate the molar absorptivity of the picrate anion and to derive equilibrium concentrations for the dissociation constant. The dissociation constant (Ka) was calculated using the concentrations of the picric anion and the sodium picrate. The final result for the dissociation constant of picric acid was determined to be 1.44 M.
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A 0.120 M solution of sodium picrate ina 1 M sodium hydroxide solution was observed to have an absorbance of 0.335, due only to the absorption by the picrate anion. In the same spectrophotometer cell and at the same wavelength as in the previous measurement, a 0.300 M solution of picric acid was found to have an absorbance of 0.581. Calculate the dissociation constant for picric acid

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A=abc

Ka = [A]/[AB]

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I am not sure where to begin but this is what I thought so far:

0.335 = 0.120 a a=2.792
0.581 = .300 a a = 1.937

I am not sure how to use the absorption values in the dissociation constant equation.
 
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Convert them to concentrations.

Hint: how much undissociated weak acid can be present in the 1M NaOH solution?
 
I thought I was given the concentrations in the question?

will the [OH]- not matter because [H]+ >> [OH]-?
 
hc772 said:
I thought I was given the concentrations in the question?

You need equilibrium concentrations, you are given total concentrations.

will the [OH]- not matter because [H]+ >> [OH]-?

You have 1M NaOH and 0.12M weak acid and you think [H+] >> [OH-]? In terms of simple stoichiometry you have around 8 times more NaOH that is needed to completely neutralize the acid.
 
So to find the equilibrium concentrations I did:

NaA + NaOH ---> A + OH + 2Na
0.012 M 1.0 M 0 0 -
-x -x +x +x -
0.12 - x 1.0 -x x x -


Kc = [A][OH]/[NaH][NaOH] = (0.12 -x)(1.0 -x)/(x)(x)

=(0.12 -0.88x + x2)/x2

Where do I go from here? how do I incorporate the absorbances?
 
Looks like you have no idea what you are doing :frown:

First experiment is to find the absorbance coefficient of A-. You use very high pH solution to be sure that all acid is in the neutralized form.
 
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the molar absorptivity of the picric acid would be

0.581 = a(0.300 M) a= (0.581/0.300) = 1.937 M

and for the mixture of sodium picrate and NaOH it would be

0.335 = a1(0.120 M) + a2(1 M)

This gives me two unknowns for one equation. can I use the molar absorptivity of the picric acid in the equation for the mixture?
 
It is not absorptivity of picric acid, but of the picrate anion. NaOH doesn't matter - you may assume its absorptivity coefficient is 0.
 
So if the absorbance of 0.335 is only due to the picric anion the concentration of the picric anion of the solution is as follows:

0.335 = (1.973)CA CA= 0.173 M

Ka = [A+]/[NaA][NaOH] = [0.173]/[.12][1] = 1.44 M
 
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