Distance of closest approach of particles

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A proton and an alpha particle are fired towards each other with an initial speed of 0.01c, and the problem requires finding their distance of closest approach. The conservation of momentum and energy equations are applied, with the initial kinetic energy and potential energy at infinity considered. The calculations involve determining the final velocity and equating kinetic energy lost to potential energy gained due to electrostatic forces. A correction is noted regarding the initial speed used in calculations, emphasizing the need to use the specified 0.01c. The final result for the distance of closest approach is calculated to be r = -1.92 * 10^{-18} m, prompting further discussion on the validity of the approach.
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Homework Statement



A proton (q = 1e, m = 1u) and an alpha particle (q = +2e, m = 4u) are fired directly toward each other from far away, with an initial speed of 0.01c. What is their distance of closest approach, as measured between their centers? (Hint: There are two conserved quantities. Make use of both.)


Homework Equations



K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f

m_1v_{1i} + m_2v_{2i} = m_1v_{1f} + m_2v_{2f}


The Attempt at a Solution



How does this look?

e = 1.60 * 10^{-19} C
c = 3.00 * 10^8 m/s
u = 1.661 * 10^{-27} kg

m_1v_{1i} + m_2v_{2i} = m_1v_{1f} + m_2v_{2f}
(4u)(3 * 10^8 m/s) - (u)(3 * 10^8 m/s) = (4u + u)v_{f}

v_{f} = \frac{(4u)(3 * 10^8 m/s) - (u)(3 * 10^8 m/s)}{(4u + u)}
v_{f} = 1.80 * 10^8 m/s

\frac{1}{2}(m_{1}+m_{2})v_{f}^{2} + \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}(\frac{q1q2}{\infty}) = \frac{1}{2}(m_{1}+m_{2})v_{i}^{2} + \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}(\frac{q1q2}{r})

\frac{1}{2}(4u + u)(1.80*10^8 m/s)^{2} = \frac{1}{2}(4u + u)(3.00*10^8 m/s)^{2} + \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}(\frac{2(1.60*10^{-19} C)(1.60*10^{-19} C)}{r})

4\pi\epsilon_0(\frac{1}{2}(4u + u)(1.80*10^8 m/s)^{2} - \frac{1}{2}(4u + u)(3.00*10^8 m/s)^{2}) = (\frac{2(1.60*10^{-19} C)(1.60*10^{-19} C)}{r})

r= \frac{2(1.60*10^{-19} C)(1.60*10^{-19} C)}{4\pi\epsilon_0(\frac{1}{2}(4u + u)(1.80*10^8 m/s)^{2} - \frac{1}{2}(4u + u)(3.00*10^8 m/s)^{2})}

r = -1.92 * 10^{-18} m
 
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