Divergence of electric field and charge density

In summary: Define divergence as the rate of change with distance of the electric field coming out of a volume versus the electric field going into it. Divergence is the rate of change with distance. Divergence is not about the rate of change with distance.
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The divergence of electric field at a point is proportional to the charge density at the point. Divergence is the rate of change with distance, the rate of change of electric field due to a distant charge is not zero, so how can it be said that the divergence at a point depends only on the charge density there?
 
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vin300 said:
Divergence is the rate of change with distance

No, the divergence is a particular combination of partial derivatives. You should compute the divergence of the electric field of a point charge yourself. You'll find that it is zero except at the position of the charge, where it is singular.
 
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Divergence is not about the rate of change with distance.
 
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vin300 said:
The divergence of electric field at a point is proportional to the charge density at the point. Divergence is the rate of change with distance, the rate of change of electric field due to a distant charge is not zero, so how can it be said that the divergence at a point depends only on the charge density there?

The_Duck said:
No, the divergence is a particular combination of partial derivatives. You should compute the divergence of the electric field of a point charge yourself. You'll find that it is zero except at the position of the charge, where it is singular.

Leland said:
Divergence is not about the rate of change with distance.

i don't know if i agree with you guys (Duck and Leland). divergence is about rate of change with distance. it is about how rapidly the field strength changes with distance outward from the point where the charge density is.

divergence is essentially a microscopic version of Gauss's Law. and Gauss's Law works only for inverse-square fields and it gives you the amount of charge contained in the volume surrounded by a closed surface. then squeeze that volume and closed surface down to a teeny-little differential volume. then the field diverging out of that differential volume is equal to the teeny charge contained inside which is the charge density times the teeny differential volume.
 
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rbj, I agree with your definition, but the way I interpret it your definition is quite different from 'rate of change with distance'. The word 'outward' is the key.
 
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Isn't divergence defined as the difference between total flux (or field strength) coming out of a volume versus flux (or field strength) going into it? (a source-sink relationship)
 
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1. What is divergence of electric field?

Divergence of electric field is a measure of how much the electric field is spreading out or converging at a particular point in space. It is represented by the symbol ∇ · E and is a vector quantity.

2. What is charge density?

Charge density is a measure of the amount of charge per unit volume at a particular point in space. It is represented by the symbol ρ and is a scalar quantity.

3. How are divergence of electric field and charge density related?

They are related by Gauss's Law, which states that the divergence of the electric field at a point is equal to the net charge density at that point divided by the permittivity of free space.

4. What does a positive divergence of electric field indicate?

A positive divergence of electric field indicates that the electric field is spreading out or diverging at that point, meaning there is a net outward flow of electric field lines.

5. How is divergence of electric field used in electrostatics?

Divergence of electric field is used to calculate the electric flux through a closed surface and to apply Gauss's Law to solve for the electric field in situations with symmetry, such as a point charge or a charged sphere.

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