Diverging and Converging lenses in a system

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving diverging and converging lenses, specifically focusing on finding the final position and size of an image formed by a lens system. The participants are exploring the application of the lens formula and the implications of virtual images in their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the lens formula to determine image positions and sizes, but there is confusion regarding the use of distances for multiple lenses. Questions arise about how to correctly identify the object distance for the second lens and the implications of virtual images.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on the placement of images relative to the lenses and how to approach the calculations for the final image size. Some guidance has been offered regarding the consideration of lenses together versus separately, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of lens systems, including the definitions of object and image distances, and the nature of virtual images. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup and assumptions made in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


A)Find the final position of the image (from the object, I assume?)
B)Find the size of the final image of the object.

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Homework Equations


1/f = 1/do + 1/di

The Attempt at a Solution


1) Solved first distance: 1/5 - 1/4 = 1/di --> 4/20 - 5/20, di = -20cm
2) Use di1 for do in second calculation, but my answer is incorrect.[/B]
 
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Where did you take the second lense into account?
 
mfb said:
Where did you take the second lense into account?
That's what I'm having trouble determining; what do I use for "do" in my second calculation?
 
The distance between the (virtual) image and the lense. Where in the sketch is this image?
 
mfb said:
The distance between the (virtual) image and the lense. Where in the sketch is this image?
if di1 = -20cm, doesn't that place it behind the concave lens?
 
What is "behind", left or right?
 
mfb said:
What is "behind", left or right?
If I had to guess I'd say to the right of Lens 2
 
DrewHizzy said:
If I had to guess I'd say to the right of Lens 2
Again, this is the piece I do not understand.
 
mfb said:
What is "behind", left or right?
I answered Part A correctly with 9.6cm, hi/ho = di/do for part B? Do I make two calculations like Part A?
 
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For B, I think you don't have to consider the lenses separately (but it is possible) as you know the result of both together already. You just have to be careful which distances to use.
 

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