Do Electrons Emit Lower Frequency Waves When Moving Very Fast?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Infrasound
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Dilation Doppler
Infrasound
Messages
70
Reaction score
0
I have always been taught, that we can tell how fast a galaxy is moving away from us by it's amount of doppler shift.

If the atoms in the stars of those galaxies are moving very fast (i.e. that galaxy is moving faster than our galaxy is moving), relativity would have a bigger effect on them.

Time would run slower for them (i.e. their electrons have to slow down).

Now,

Wouldn't THAT also effect the wavelengths of the emitted light? That is to say, the electrons jiggle slower than they normally would if they were not moving so fast, so they emit lower frequency waves.

Is THAT taken into account in the amount of doppler shift?

Is my thinking off?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Infrasound said:
If the atoms in the stars of those galaxies are moving very fast (i.e. that galaxy is moving faster than our galaxy is moving), relativity would have a bigger effect on them.

Galaxy is moving faster then our galaxy is moving, comparing to what?
 
Hi Infrasound! :smile:

The rest-frame wavelength is determined by the difference in energy levels of the two electron states in the atom's rest-frame.

Once you have that rest-frame wavelength, you can forget about the atom completely, and just apply the Lorentz transformation to the wavelength

basically, that's a factor of eα = √(1 + v/c)/√(1 - v/c), where tanhα = v/c is the speed of the atom.

For v very much less than c, that's approximately 1 + v/c.
 
Thread 'Can this experiment break Lorentz symmetry?'
1. The Big Idea: According to Einstein’s relativity, all motion is relative. You can’t tell if you’re moving at a constant velocity without looking outside. But what if there is a universal “rest frame” (like the old idea of the “ether”)? This experiment tries to find out by looking for tiny, directional differences in how objects move inside a sealed box. 2. How It Works: The Two-Stage Process Imagine a perfectly isolated spacecraft (our lab) moving through space at some unknown speed V...
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. The Relativator was sold by (as printed) Atomic Laboratories, Inc. 3086 Claremont Ave, Berkeley 5, California , which seems to be a division of Cenco Instruments (Central Scientific Company)... Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/relativator-circular-slide-rule-simulated-with-desmos/ by @robphy
In Philippe G. Ciarlet's book 'An introduction to differential geometry', He gives the integrability conditions of the differential equations like this: $$ \partial_{i} F_{lj}=L^p_{ij} F_{lp},\,\,\,F_{ij}(x_0)=F^0_{ij}. $$ The integrability conditions for the existence of a global solution ##F_{lj}## is: $$ R^i_{jkl}\equiv\partial_k L^i_{jl}-\partial_l L^i_{jk}+L^h_{jl} L^i_{hk}-L^h_{jk} L^i_{hl}=0 $$ Then from the equation: $$\nabla_b e_a= \Gamma^c_{ab} e_c$$ Using cartesian basis ## e_I...
Back
Top