# Do you beleive numbers effect our personality?

## Do you beleive in Numerology?

• Total voters
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#### TylerH

I don't think anyone here read the OP before thinking about their response.
To be fair, the title has more of an explanation of "numerology" than the OP does.

#### JaredJames

The title doesn't mention numerology, only the OP does.

If you vote without reading the OP you won't realise it is about numerology.

So the title means nothing in this case.

#### Evo

Mentor
If people don't know what numerology is, they should look it up before they vote.

#### nismaratwork

Sorry Lacy...

I voted no, but I would say that I find some numbers VERY significant.

1: The number of hearts you want to have.
2: The number of testicles you want to have if you're male.
3: The number of testicles you don't want to have if you're male.
0: The number of testicles you REALLY don't want to have if you're male.
1: The ideal number of "Penasia" (Louis C.K.) a man should have, but undesirable in ladies.
42: If you don't get this, I don't get you. GOOGLE IT.
1024: More accurate than 1000.
7: Most common favorite number.

#### JaredJames

I'm glad you included 1024, but extremely happy you put 42 in the list!

#### nismaratwork

I'm glad you included 1024, but extremely happy you put 42 in the list!
I knew I liked you for all kinds of good reasons!

#### Proton Soup

i read the OP. and then i just voted the way i wanted to. which is that numbers obviously affect people.

#### JaredJames

I'm glad you included 1024, but extremely happy you put 42 in the list!
I knew I liked you for all kinds of good reasons!
Ha, just realised something seeing as we're on the subject of numerology:

Do you not see the special meaning of 1024 and 42?

Double the first half and halve the second half of 1024 = 2012

Half of 42 = 21

What do you get, 21 2012. Now all I need is the something to give me the month.

Which funny enough I would have had. If you add up the rest of your 'special numbers': 1+2+3+1+7 = 14. However, when I was reading them and saw "The number of testicles you don't want to have if you're male." my first thoughts were 1.

So substitute the 3 for a 1 and you get your 12.

Which gives us 21st of December 2012.

Wow, I just BS'd my way through numerology 101!

#### Evo

Mentor
i read the OP. and then i just voted the way i wanted to. which is that numbers obviously affect people.
But that's not the question.

Is it too much to ask that people understand what numerology is before they vote? It's not that difficult to read up on it people.

This is just a silly poll, but it demonstrates how many people will vote when they are completely clueless as to what they are voting on.

#### Proton Soup

But that's not the question.
it is the poll question, as worded. but, more importantly to me, numerology may be right about some things, if for the wrong reasons.

#### Evo

Mentor
it is the poll question, as worded. but, more importantly to me, numerology may be right about some things, if for the wrong reasons.
So you believe in the supernatural?

#### Proton Soup

So you believe in the supernatural?
that is a different question. numbers may affect people for perfectly natural reasons.

#### Evo

Mentor
that is a different question. numbers may affect people for perfectly natural reasons.
But do you believe in numerology? That was the poll question.

#### Proton Soup

But do you believe in numerology? That was the poll question.
if you wish to remove my vote, then please do so.

#### rootX

How could a simple question do you believe in numerology stimulate a discussion without a head and a tail ... :surprised

#### disregardthat

How could a simple question do you believe in numerology stimulate a discussion without a head and a tail ... :surprised
Such is the nature of the General discussion forum.

#### rootX

Such is the nature of the General discussion forum.
Yes, I was joking

I voted No. I am curious what kind of school project is that. Schools don't teach numerology ...

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#### Lacy33

So you believe in the supernatural?
Tried to double quote here but would not work for me.

"believe in the supernatural?" is very strong. There a lot of things I am waiting for technology to make available to us in a clear and reasonable way.
I think some things termed supernatural are just plain hogwash. But a lot of things, this topic perhaps not being one, I don't know, are very close to finding a place in the science labs.
I started with PF long time ago with hopes of understanding a respectable way to present "metaphysics." We may remember that one of the mentors here even stood by my attempt to get it going.
It was not the time.
I spoke often to Brian Greene about this as well and where he did not dismiss para/metaphysics he said he "had not yet seen a reasonable explanation."
"supernatural" comes with a ton of really bad stuff. Stuff I would not get near for anything.
It needs another name.
Again, I do not know anything about Gematria, a Jewish numerology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
But I would not rule it out.

#### Evo

Mentor
I go by the standard definition of supernatural.

The term supernatural or supranatural (Latin: super, supra "above" + natura "nature") pertains to being above or beyond what is natural, unexplainable by natural law or phenomena. ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural

#### Lacy33

I go by the standard definition of supernatural.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural
Ok, I read that and it's the very nightmare people interested in Metaphysics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics
And the paranormal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology
Are going to be scooped up in.
But this is an old topic here. I even found one of my original posts when looking for these references.

I just think "supernatural" includes things like witchcraft and other semi faith based things that would not be even close to science.

#### Pythagorean

Gold Member
despite the implications of my name, no I don't believe in supernatural numerology.

#### Chi Meson

Homework Helper
Not english letters and numbers though. Only Hebrew. Thank you, don't ask me. The study is way too advanced for me. I just know scholars of Talmud who have found evidence of this.
Well now I know of someone who knows scholars of Talmud, and doggonnit that's good enough for me!

#### JaredJames

I just think "supernatural" includes things like witchcraft and other semi faith based things that would not be even close to science.
Your beliefs are your own and they are entirely down to yourself, however there is a reason all these get lumped together in the eyes of science.

Science requires a certain set of criteria in order to for it to grant its view on the subject - all of these topics have failed in that criteria.

For example, science requests proof / evidence for the phenomenon.

Numerology, as with ghosts and magic etc have never produced any acceptable evidence under the criteria for science to accept it. People perceive there being evidence - the numbers predict you're going to bump into an old friend - but they ignore all the predictions that don't come true - the vast majority made.

#### Lacy33

Your beliefs are your own and they are entirely down to yourself, however there is a reason all these get lumped together in the eyes of science.
Hi jarednjames, Thank you for your comments on my post. I agree with how things get piled together in a grouping and suffer the company of all that is in there.
I needed to mention to a poster in a thread about ufo's. My beliefs really have nothing to do with anything I post here if you are trying to say that because I am of a "faith based" tradition and people, I have a "belief" that colors everything I say and do. No!
It does not.
It is actually the tradition of my people within the "faith based" community to question everything.
The name of this thread goes by "Do you believe numbers effect our personality?"
I think this is a poor way to present the question on a science forum. Or any forum for that matter unless you want to ID all "faithful" type personalities.

Please allow me give you an example of how "numbers" and weak studies that fall under science and in this case the medical field do effect our personalities and very lives.

I am a survivor of domestic violence, a lot of people here know this.
Many years ago while being seen for a pre natal check up and broke out in tears and told the doctor I was being beat every day and many time knocked out. The doctor gave ME a tranquilizer.
Now you can start counting and calculating how numbers, observation, science, commerce, and failed science studies can actually kill someone.
I took the medicine. My baby thankfully was born OK. I continued to take beatings but finally left successfully.

Fast forward many years.
An arranged marriage in a "faith based" community and I get another abuser. Mazel Tov! First he breaks the glass and then he breaks my head.
From the part of the world where he comes this is how they treat women.

He says to me "a woman has a snake in her and the husband needs to beat it to come out of her mouth and then she will be a "faithful" loving wife." :surprised

This man was not an American which I am and I was not up on this tradition.
He watched me very carefully and it was hard to get out but I did. Thankfully before dying.

I ended up in a battered woman's shelter and like all woman there, went through medical exams and psychological evaluation.

Are you counting? Are you sleeping? WAKE UP! Thank you.

My symptoms at the time were shaking uncontrollably, scattered thinking, fainting, .... Well you might imagine, I was afraid this man would find me and kill me, a shared feeling of many battered people.

COUNT!
That psychiatrist threw the book at me. The entire DSM IV. I went in a terrified young woman who could not even trust her own "faith based" leaders who I was imagining knew this man would beat me, and came out of her office a full schizophrenic with a huge amount of medications to keep me from being a danger to myself and others.

I did not take that medication. I waited ....... 12 years later, I finally ended up with the correct diagnosis. PTSD, depression and anxiety d/o. I never had schizophrenia.
Psychiatry is a part of the medical system that is based on science that is based on numbers.
How much "belief," speculation and and room for error is there in this very dangerous area of science that is based on data (numbers)?
Thankfully it is advancing. But it did not do so without the data of which I am part.

#### JaredJames

Lacy, that sounds terrible. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Now, to get straight to the point (and this going to sound a lot harsher than I mean it to) - where do numbers come into any of that? I'm even curious where science relating to numerology comes into it.

I'm not sure about your first marriage, how that one came about, perhaps the same as the second?. But the cause of the second one a) for getting you into it and b) for the attitude towards women is cultural and religion based - nothing scientific or number related there.
Psychiatry is a part of the medical system that is based on science that is based on numbers.
Numbers, assumptions and predictions.

But those numbers aren't based on numerology - far from it.

This thread is about numerology. Nothing in your post is related to it. Of course, numbers as you describe affect our daily lives - my bank account does on a daily basis, but this is absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

(See, a lot harsher than I wanted it to be.)

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