Does Absolute Value Affect Fraction Equality?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the equality of two expressions involving absolute values and fractions: ##\frac{|x + 1|}{|x + 2|}## and ##\left|\frac{x + 1}{x + 2} \right|##. Participants explore this concept through examples and reasoning, seeking clarification on the conditions under which the equality holds.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks whether ##\frac{|x + 1|}{|x + 2|}## is equal to ##\left|\frac{x + 1}{x + 2} \right|## and expresses confusion about the concept.
  • Another participant suggests testing specific values of x, such as x = 10 and x = -10, to evaluate the expressions and determine their equality.
  • A later reply asserts that the two expressions are identically equal, explaining that the signs of x + 1 and x + 2 affect the evaluation but do not change the equality.
  • Another participant reinforces the idea that the equality holds, likening it to the property of absolute values of products, ##|xy| = |x||y|##.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the two expressions are equal, though some seek further clarification and examples to understand the reasoning behind this equality.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the conditions under which the equality holds for all values of x, particularly around the point where x = -2, where the expressions are undefined.

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Is it correct that ##\frac{|x + 1|}{|x + 2|}## equal to ##\left|\frac{x + 1}{x + 2} \right|##?

Please explain, I don't understand.

Thank you
 
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Pick an x but not x=-2 and test it:

I pick x = 10

|x+1| / |x+2| = |11| / |12| = 11 / 12 = | 11/12 | = | (x+1) / (x+2) |

then pick x=-10

| x+1| / |x+2| = |-9| / |-8| = 9 / 8 = | 9/8 | = | -9/-8 | = | (x+1) / (x+2) |

Try other values for x and then decide if it is true or not.
 
askor said:
Is it correct that ##\frac{|x + 1|}{|x + 2|}## equal to ##\left|\frac{x + 1}{x + 2} \right|##?
Yes, the two expressions are identically equal.
askor said:
Please explain, I don't understand.
Think about the expressions x + 1 and x + 2. Each of them is negative, zero, or positive, depending on the value of x. Now, as long as ##x \ne -2##, ##\frac{x +1}{x + 2}## will have some value. Does it matter whether we take the absolute values of the numerator and denominator separately, or evaluate the fraction and then take its absolute value?
 
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askor said:
Is it correct that ##\frac{|x + 1|}{|x + 2|}## equal to ##\left|\frac{x + 1}{x + 2} \right|##?
Absolutely!

It's only ##|xy| = |x||y|## in disguise.
 
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