Does Compressing and Stretching a Spring Require Equal Force?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the forces required to compress and stretch a spring, exploring whether these forces are equal and if this relationship is dependent on the type of spring. Participants also inquire about the applicability of Hooke's Law (F = -kx) in both scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether compressing a spring 1cm requires the same force as stretching it 1cm and if this is dependent on the type of spring.
  • Another participant confirms that Hooke's Law applies to both stretching and compression of springs, but expresses uncertainty about its accuracy in real-life applications.
  • A different participant challenges the universality of Hooke's Law, providing examples of springs that do not follow the expected force-displacement relationship, such as a coil spring that buckles under compression or one that cannot be compressed at all.
  • A participant shares their personal context, mentioning their attempt to find the spring constant of a spring launcher they built.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Hooke's Law to real-life springs, indicating that while it is generally accepted for theoretical problems, exceptions exist in practical scenarios. No consensus is reached on the nature of forces required for compression versus stretching.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific spring designs and the potential for varying force-displacement relationships based on those designs. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or physical implications of these variations.

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Does it take the same amount of force to compress a spring 1cm as it does to stretch it 1cm?

Is it dependent on the type of spring?

If so, what kind of spring would exhibit properties similar to what I have posted above?

Is the spring constant, k, where F= -kx only used for spring compression, or can it be used interchangeably for both spring stretching and compression?
 
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hi gobbledygook! welcome to pf! :wink:

in exam questions, springs always obey Hooke's Law (F = -kx)

and yes it applies to both stretching (extension) and compression :smile:

(whether it applies accurately to all real-life springs, i have no idea! :redface:)
 


tiny-tim said:
(whether it applies accurately to all real-life springs, i have no idea! :redface:)

It doesn't. It is true for many types of real-life springs, but you can make the relation between force and displacement pretty much anything you like by designing the right sort of spring.

One example of when it isn't true a long coil spring that would "buckle" when you try to compress it, and the force needed to compress it would be very small.

Another example is a coil spring that is made with the coils touching each other, so you can't compress it at all, but you can stretch it easily.

But tiny-tim is right - you can assume it is true in physics or engineering "homework" type questions, unless the question tells you to assume something different.
 
Thanks Tim!

I am actually trying to find the spring constant of the launcher that I built.

Here are some photos of my spring launcher :smile:
Launcher 3.jpg


Launcher 1.jpg
 

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