Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the cause of cosmological redshift, specifically whether it is a result of the expansion of space or if it can be explained through local Minkowskian spacetime. Participants explore the implications of spacetime geometry on the behavior of light and the perception of redshift by observers.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
Main Points Raised
- Some participants assert that cosmological redshift is generally assumed to be due to space expansion, while others challenge this assumption, arguing it is derived from the spacetime geometry and the relationship of light rays to comoving observers.
- One participant contends that in locally flat Minkowskian spacetime, the wavelength of photons should not change, while another counters that there is no independent notion of "photon wavelength" without considering the observer's perspective.
- A participant introduces the idea that comoving observers in local Minkowski coordinates are not at relative rest and should experience a mutual redshift.
- Another participant draws an analogy between local flatness and the curvature of the Earth, suggesting that while local flatness is an approximation, it does not negate the presence of redshift over larger distances.
- It is noted that in an ideal FLRW universe, observers separated by large distances would see redshift, while those very close together would experience negligible redshift, highlighting the scale-dependent nature of cosmological effects.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the relationship between spacetime geometry and cosmological redshift, with no consensus reached on whether redshift is solely due to space expansion or if other factors are at play.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight the limitations of local flatness as an approximation and the dependence on observer perspectives, indicating that the discussion involves unresolved assumptions about spacetime and redshift.