Does Light Speed Affect Mass of Surrounding Objects?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of light speed on mass and the perception of mass and length in relativistic contexts. Participants explore concepts related to relativistic mass, invariant mass, and length contraction as objects approach the speed of light.

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  • One participant suggests that as an object approaches the speed of light, it gains mass from an outside perspective and questions if the reverse occurs for surrounding objects.
  • Another participant clarifies that the concept of "relativistic mass" is not considered very useful in modern relativity, emphasizing the focus on invariant mass.
  • A participant notes that from the perspective of an object moving close to the speed of light, everything around it appears to have increased relativistic mass due to their motion relative to the object.
  • There is a question about whether objects traveling close to the speed of light actually get thinner or if it is an optical effect related to light bouncing off them.
  • A response indicates that length contraction occurs, meaning an object traveling at close to the speed of light will appear shorter in the direction of motion compared to when it is at rest relative to an observer.

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Participants express differing views on the utility of relativistic mass versus invariant mass, and there is no consensus on the implications of these concepts for surrounding objects or the nature of length contraction.

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Limitations include the reliance on definitions of mass and length, as well as the varying interpretations of relativistic effects depending on the reference frame considered.

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Individuals interested in the implications of relativity on mass and length, as well as those exploring foundational concepts in modern physics.

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I know that when anything starts moving close to the speed of C (light speed) it ganes mass from an outside perspective. Does the same apply in the reverse? From the perspective of the thing that moving close to C does everything around it lose mass??
 
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hsdrop said:
when anything starts moving close to the speed of C (light speed) it ganes mass from an outside perspective

This concept of "relativistic mass" is actually not considered very useful in modern relativity. The modern view focuses on rest mass, better thought of as invariant mass since it is invariant under a change of reference frame.

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From the perspective of the thing that moving close to C does everything around it lose mass??

If you are using the concept of relativistic mass, then from the perspective of the thing, everything around it is moving close to the speed of light (while it itself is at rest), and therefore the relativistic mass of everything around it is increased.
 
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Ok that makes sense, I just was not sure how to think of it.
If you don't mind, I would like to ask another quick question.
Do object traveling close to C true get thinner or is it just the way the light bounces off it at that speed?:oldconfused:
 
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Do object traveling close to C true get thinner

If you're referring to length contraction, if you measure the length of an object traveling at close to c relative to you, it will be shorter in its direction of motion than it would be if it were at rest relative to you.
 
Thank you peter for taking the time to answer my questions and phrasing it in such a way that everyone can understand no matter what level of education they might have.
:partytime::wink:
 
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You're welcome!
 
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