Does Point A Have Maximum or Minimum Intensity?

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Point A, located 1.6m horizontally from the top speaker and 1.2m vertically apart from another speaker, experiences minimum intensity due to destructive interference. The calculations involve determining the path difference and phase difference between the waves from the two speakers, with the correct conditions for maximum and minimum intensity based on these differences. The phase difference must be an odd multiple of π for destructive interference to occur. The discussion also clarifies the geometric relationships needed to calculate angles and path differences accurately. Understanding these principles is crucial for resolving the intensity at point A effectively.
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Hi guys,

Couldn't figure this question out even after some thinking through. Hope someone can help me here.

2 loudspeakers are placed 1.2m vetrically apart. The point A is the horizontal distance of 1.6m from the top speaker. Both speakers are operating in phase with a steady freq of 400Hz and the speed of sound can be assumed to be at 320ms^-1. Does point A have maximum/minimum/somewhere between max and min intensity?

The answer I was given is minimum intensity.

I used the formula y = (lambda)D/a where D = 1.6 and a = 1.2 and y = fringe spacing. I worked y out to be 1.067m which I interpret this result as a bright fringe 1.067m above the central maximum. I then used inverse tangent of 0.6/1.6 and sin the resultant angle multiplied by 1.2, to find the path difference. Am I correct till here? How should I continue to find whether if the 2 waves are in phase to point A?
 
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All of a sudden I managed to come out with the solution with the phase diff of .52 which implies that destructive interference is at point A. I have another question, that is using the calculation for fringe spacing. If I take the inverse tangent of 1.067/1.6 I would get approx .0588 radians.

Using the sin function on this angle and multiply it by 1.2, I'd get the path difference. When I divide it by 0.8, I'd get a phase diff of .07, which doesn't completely give a minimum, but somewhere between max/min intensity. Why is there this contradictory answer?

Thanks!
 
al_201314 said:
Hi guys,

Couldn't figure this question out even after some thinking through. Hope someone can help me here.

2 loudspeakers are placed 1.2m vetrically apart. The point A is the horizontal distance of 1.6m from the top speaker. Both speakers are operating in phase with a steady freq of 400Hz and the speed of sound can be assumed to be at 320ms^-1. Does point A have maximum/minimum/somewhere between max and min intensity?

The answer I was given is minimum intensity.

I used the formula y = (lambda)D/a where D = 1.6 and a = 1.2 and y = fringe spacing. I worked y out to be 1.067m which I interpret this result as a bright fringe 1.067m above the central maximum. I then used inverse tangent of 0.6/1.6 and sin the resultant angle multiplied by 1.2, to find the path difference. Am I correct till here? How should I continue to find whether if the 2 waves are in phase to point A?

There are two ways to solve this type of problem (they are all equivalent but the language is a bit different). One can work in terms of phase difference or in terms of difference of distance (the term "path difference" is sometimes used).

In any case, one way is to calculate the difference y_2 - y_1 where y_2 and y_1 are the distances between the point and each of the source. Given that the sources are in phase, if this difference of distance is a multiple of the wavelength, you will have constructive interference. If it is an odd multiple of half the wavelength, you have destructive interference

To summarize, for two sources in phase we have
y_2 - y_1 = n \lambda \rightarrow maximum
y_2 - y_1 = (2 n -1) {\lambda \over 2} \rightarrow minimum
where n =1,2,3,4...


 
al_201314 said:
All of a sudden I managed to come out with the solution with the phase diff of .52 which implies that destructive interference is at point A.
This is not right . Only phase differences which are odd multiples of \pi like \pi,3\pi,5\pi ... lead to destructive interferences .Please post how you have obtained this answer so that we may correct you .
I am assuming that you converted your obtained path difference to phase difference which seems to give your answer, is that right ?
So that would mean you have made some error in calculating the path difference in the first place .
Starting from the basics, you seem to know that
path diff. = asin\theta
Now as an approximation for small angles we may write,
path diff. = atan\theta

From the setup, we know geometrically that

tan\theta = \frac{y}{D}

or path diff. = \frac{ay}{D}

Now in your question you know the values of all parameters in the above equation . See whether the path diff. matches with anyone of the conditions for minimum .
I didn't understand what you did with inverse tangent and the angle .
Can u follow what I have said ?

Cheers
Arun
 
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Thanks for the response. With regards to your first post, I managed and understood the solutions, I didn't thought of it to be that simple.

However, one question regarding the phase difference method. I think this method is based on Young's double slit experiment. When determining the angle, why is it required to divide the distance between the 2 speakers by 2? i.e, tangent inverse(0.6/1.6) in this case? Why is it not right by using inverse tangent(1.2/1.6)? I'd get different answers for phase and path diff. for the 2 different angles obtained.

Edit: I understand that for a single slit experiment, the centre would always be a maxima. What about the centre between 2 sources in a double slit experiment?
 
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In a double slit experiment too, the centre (origin) is usually taken as the central maximum .
The central maximum is formed where path difference between the two interfering waves is 0 ( usually ) . This is possible only when the point is half way between the two slits , is it not ?
So this is chosen as the origin . The tangent of the angle and the relation with path difference is just plain geometry as I have shown in my ealier post .
 
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