Does Polarization Cause Discontinuous EM Waves?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of polarization in electromagnetic (EM) waves, specifically addressing whether the application of a linear polarizer to circularly polarized light results in a continuous or discontinuous wave reaching the retina. Participants explore the implications of polarization on wave behavior and the nature of the light that passes through a polarizer.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the light reaching their retina after passing through a linear polarizer would be continuous, suggesting that the polarizer absorbs most of the light and only allows certain orientations of the wave to pass.
  • Another participant introduces an analogy using a rope to illustrate how different polarizations behave when passing through a narrow gap, prompting further exploration of the topic.
  • A later reply clarifies that circular polarization can be viewed as a combination of two linear polarizations, and that the field passing through a linear polarizer has a time-dependent amplitude and intensity, which does not imply a discontinuous wave.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding the analogy and seeks further clarification on the concepts involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the wave reaching the retina is continuous or discontinuous, with some arguing that it is continuous while others remain uncertain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on this matter.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the time-dependent nature of the amplitude and intensity of the wave, but there are unresolved questions regarding the implications of this for the continuity of the wave. The analogy involving the rope and the gap introduces additional complexity that is not fully resolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the concepts of wave polarization, those studying electromagnetic theory, or anyone seeking to understand the behavior of light in different polarization states.

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I'd like to test my understanding of polarization, concept new to me. I except that the answer to my following question is "no", but I'm not sure and I don't know why it would be so.
If I see a circularly (left of right, it doesn't matter) polarized EM wave going to my eyes and I put a polaroid in front of my eyes such that it polarizes linearly the light. Will the EM wave getting on my retina be a continuous wave? I'd think that no since the polaroid would absorb most of the light and let only pass the wave when the electric and magnetic fields have a very particular direction. So only a small part of the incoming wave would pass through the polaroid, making a discontinuous wave. Is my reasoning erroneous? I guess that yes, but I need an explanation.
In other words, would my retina be constantly receiving some EM wave? I think that most of the time, no. Am I right?
 
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Imagine a long rope or string, holding one end while the other is tied off. You can send linear polarised waves along it by shaking your end up and down. You can send circ. pol. waves by shaking the end in a circle. If the string passes through a narrow vertical gap, like a door jam, what kind of wave gets through the jam if you try sending a) circular b) vertical c) horizontal polarisations? (And does anything get reflected?)
 
fluidistic said:
If I see a circularly (left of right, it doesn't matter) polarized EM wave going to my eyes and I put a polaroid in front of my eyes such that it polarizes linearly the light. Will the EM wave getting on my retina be a continuous wave?

Circular polarization is the sum of two linear polarization states, each in quadrature to each other. So the field passing through a linear polarizer is one of the two states, which has a time-dependent amplitude and intensity [sin(wt) or sin^2(wt)]. This is not a discontinuous wave, tho.
 
Thanks both for helping,
cesiumfrog said:
Imagine a long rope or string, holding one end while the other is tied off. You can send linear polarised waves along it by shaking your end up and down. You can send circ. pol. waves by shaking the end in a circle. If the string passes through a narrow vertical gap, like a door jam, what kind of wave gets through the jam if you try sending a) circular b) vertical c) horizontal polarisations? (And does anything get reflected?)
I have a language difficulty, I tried google translator and wikipedia, but I can't figure out what a door jam is and I have a vague idea about what a vertical gap is.
So I can't really answer, but my intuition tells me that b passes, c doesn't and I'm not sure what happens with a.

Andy Resnick said:
Circular polarization is the sum of two linear polarization states, each in quadrature to each other. So the field passing through a linear polarizer is one of the two states, which has a time-dependent amplitude and intensity [sin(wt) or sin^2(wt)]. This is not a discontinuous wave, tho.

I see. I'd have to read more about it, I can't picture in my head what's going on.
 

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