Does the log property a*log(x)=log(x^a) still hold if a is even and x

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The logarithmic property a*log(x) = log(x^a) does hold when a is even, but caution is required with negative values of x due to complex logarithms. In the context of complex numbers, log(1) is not uniquely zero; it can take on multiple values based on the integer k in the expression 2kπi. The principal value of the complex logarithm is defined as Log(z) = ln|z| + iθ, where θ is the argument of the complex number. Consequently, while the left-hand side can equal one of the values on the right-hand side, it does not guarantee equality of principal values in all cases. This highlights the complexities involved when extending logarithmic properties to complex numbers.
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Does the log property a*log(x)=log(x^a) still hold if a is even and x

I imagine that ln(-1)+ln(-1) can't equal zero, even by some mysterious magic involving complex numbers.
 
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It holds, but you have to be careful with complex logarithms.

Your mistake was in assuming that log 1 = 0. This is true when you're dealing with real numbers only, but not necessarily true when you're dealing with complex numbers.

The actual complex log of 1 is ##2k{\pi}i##, where k is an integer. This just becomes the familiar zero when k = 0. But k can be any integer, meaning the complex log has an infinite number of possible values.

More generally, the complex log of a complex no. z is given by ##\log(z) = \ln|z| + i(\theta + 2k\pi)##, where ##\theta## is the argument of the complex no. ##(-\pi < arg(z) < \pi)## and ##\ln|z|## is the usual single-valued real logarithm of the modulus of z.

The principal value of the complex log is often denoted as ##Log(z)## (the capitalisation is intended). It is defined by ##Log(z) = \ln|z| + i\theta##, where the argument ##\theta## lies in the same range as previously defined.

On that basis you can say that your statement holds insofar as the sum of the principal complex logs on the LHS will equal to one possible value of the multivalued complex log on the RHS.

As an example, working with the principal values of the complex logs, ##\log(-1) = i\pi##, so ##2\log(-1) = 2i\pi##, which is also one of the complex values of ##\log 1##.

Note that it is not necessarily the case that the sum of the principal logs on the LHS will equal to the principal log of the RHS. The question you posed is a counterexample, because the principal value of the log of 1 is the usual value, 0.
 
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