Does The Range Equation Work for Complementary Angles?

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The discussion revolves around the applicability of the range equation in projectile motion, particularly concerning complementary angles. Participants explore whether the equation consistently yields two angles for a given range and the implications of these angles in practical scenarios, including cases with elevation changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the range equation should yield two solutions for complementary angles, suggesting that the textbook approach of solving for one angle may be incomplete.
  • Another participant confirms that for a given range, there are generally two solutions, except at maximum range (45°), where only one solution exists.
  • A further contribution notes that in the case of an inclined plane, the solutions change to θ and π/2-θ+α, introducing additional complexity.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the elegant form of the range equation when considering elevation changes expressed as incline angles.
  • A participant highlights that while there are two solutions, the steeper angle may be less practical due to increased drag and difficulty in real-world setups.
  • Another participant shares a practical demonstration involving a spring-loaded cannon and emphasizes the importance of choosing the appropriate angle based on the context of the experiment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the range equation can yield two solutions for complementary angles, but there is no consensus on the practicality of these solutions in real-world applications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of elevation changes and the best angle to use in specific scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the practicality of the steeper angle solution may depend on factors such as drag and the physical setup of experiments, which introduces additional considerations that are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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I am a physics teacher and am wondering something about the range equation. Wouldn't that equation work for complementary angles each time? The author of our book has us solving for one angle but shouldn't you solve for two?
 
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If given range, you are solving for angle, yes. You should get two solutions or none. The only exception is maximum range, which has precisely one solution, which is 45°.

In general, if θ is a solution to a range equation at given range, then so is 90°-θ.
 
K^2 said:
In general, if θ is a solution to a range equation at given range, then so is 90°-θ.
Unless, of course, it is an inclined plane. If the plane is at angle α above horizontal in the downrange direction, the solutions will be θ and π/2-θ+α.
 
I never realized that range with elevation change formula can have such an elegant form when change of elevation is expressed as an incline angle. Good to know.
 
slr20042003 said:
Wouldn't that equation work for complementary angles each time? The author of our book has us solving for one angle but shouldn't you solve for two?
In real setups, the steeper solution is often impractical, as it gives more drag (and might be more difficult to achieve).
 
Depends on what you are doing with it. There is a demo I used to show to undergrads in the physics lab. Ask one student to set up a plastic cup 4-6 meters from a spring-loaded cannon (max range ~7m), measure the distance to the cannon, compute angle, shoot a ball bearing into the cup. In that case, you want to go with steeper angle, because it gives you a bigger cross-section to hit and is less likely to knock the cup over. Really drives the point across that simple physics that they learn can actually be used to predict something practical with such precision.

Point is, there are two solutions. Whether one is more practical than the other is a separate issue that has nothing to do with problem itself.
 

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