Does the stablishment belong to a luciferian sect?

[eosphorus]

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Wicca & Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm

why is abdallah from jordania doing that sign to putin and why does putin smile?

why this images are hide from the main media when bush for example do it all the time?

 

[arildno]

What nonsense is this??
Post reported

 

[loseyourname]

In addition to that sign being the hand signal for Texas Longhorns fans, its also a popular hand symbol for rock musicians. I do believe it originated with metal bands that at least pretended to be Satanic, but it has since become very mainstream.

 

[eosphorus]

don get upset arildno I am just reading this book angels and demons is the precuel to the da vinci code and suggests something like this

i just try to keep an open mind and accept all posibilities and i don't think those pictures are hoaxes

 

[arildno]

i don't think those pictures are hoaxes

Eeh?
Of course the pictures are genuine.

 

[hypatia]

It also means I Love You, in American Sign Language.

 

[Moonbear]

Oh, geez, it never ceases to amaze me people's capacity for finding conspiracies in everything (not to mention in the picture they have of Kerry, he's just waving with open hands...oooh, must be Satanic ). That hand signal, in American culture (since those are all Americans pictured) can mean anything from cheering the Texas Longhorns (the University of Texas football team), to "I love you" in sign language. It also has been used by the "surfer" culture to mean something like "right on" or "cool dude" (I don't know the exact meaning, just know the context is a good one).

 

[Moonbear]

don get upset arildno I am just reading this book angels and demons is the precuel to the da vinci code and suggests something like this

Look on the spine of the book...you'll see a word there, "Fiction."

 

[eosphorus]

i did my senior high school in omaha nebraska and most of my friends were alternatives we used to make the horn salute meaning cool but it was with the thumb extended, is the same for i love you, it is with the thumb extended

so it is abdallah from jordania saying he loves putin? or he he is just another fan from the texans long horns, the same than dan quayle? or the symbol of council of foreign relations?

did you know that both bush and kerry have accepted they belonged in their youth to the secret society skulls and bones? so whoever won that secta would be behind
dont you know the 1 dollar bill is full of mason symbols like the owl or the pyramid?

 

[eosphorus]

by the way the reason the picture of kerry is kind of satanic is because it has 3 big subliminal 6

 

[Smurf]

i did my senior high school in omaha nebraska and most of my friends were alternatives we used to make the horn salute meaning cool but it was with the thumb extended, is the same for i love you, it is with the thumb extended

so it is abdallah from jordania saying he loves putin? or he he is just another fan from the texans long horns, the same than dan quayle? or the symbol of council of foreign relations?

did you know that both bush and kerry have accepted they belonged in their youth to the secret society skulls and bones? so whoever won that secta would be behind
dont you know the 1 dollar bill is full of mason symbols like the owl or the pyramid?

hate to break your fantasies eosphorus, but this is really basic conspiracy stuff.

 

[russ_watters]

(not to mention in the picture they have of Kerry, he's just waving with open hands...oooh, must be Satanic ).

Swing and a miss, Moonbear - conventioneeers are holding up a 666 in that photo. I already knew Kerry was satanic though...

 

[arildno]

Swing and a miss, Moonbear - conventioneeers are holding up a 666 in that photo. I already knew Kerry was satanic though...

And the picture I once saw of him:
He hadn't gotten all that red stuff from his wife's company, then?
Shudder..

 

[Moonbear]

Swing and a miss, Moonbear - conventioneeers are holding up a 666 in that photo. I already knew Kerry was satanic though...

Pbbbbttttt! Well, since all the others were giving hand signals, I was focused on his hands and never even noticed the signs people in the picture were holding. I don't even know, what were the 6's for? Everyone had one on their sign; getting 3 in a row wasn't too tough there, but of course that's all in the camera angle. And, hey, how do you know some of them weren't just 9's held upside down? Maybe it's another sex scandal, not a Satan scandal!

BTW - I also didn't scroll very far the first time I looked, so missed that there were non-Americans a little way down the page (though some weren't making any particular hand gesture, just seemed to be caught in photographs with their middle two fingers bent a bit more than their others, which isn't all that unnatural.

 

[Entropy]

Holy crap, have any of you been to the main page? Some people can be so stupid it scares me.

 

[eosphorus]

thats another thing that annoys me why do i have to go to such a lame page to find those pictures why they never appear in newspapers isn it at least curious?

 

[Moonbear]

thats another thing that annoys me why do i have to go to such a lame page to find those pictures why they never appear in newspapers isn it at least curious?

Not curious at all. Such photographs are readily available, it just takes a lunatic to think there's anything conspiratorial or special about them to post them all in one place with such a lame claim to go with it.

 

[arildno]

The music at the site is cool, though..

 

[Moonbear]

The music at the site is cool, though..

There's music? No wonder it's so slow loading for me.

 

[Andy]

Whats the point in this thread? Dont we all already know that G W Bush is actually one of the lizard people that rule the world?

 

[arildno]

Whats the point in this thread? Dont we all already know that G W Bush is actually one of the lizard people that rule the world?

I would have called him a gopher, but have it your way then.

 

[Andy]

I'll give you that one (dont have gophers in the UK) but it's far too stupid to imagine gophers ruling the world.

 

[arildno]

I'll give you that one (dont have gophers in the UK) but it's far too stupid to imagine gophers ruling the world.

No, it would just be pathetic. That's why I think he's a gopher.

 

[Andy]

Lizard gopher half breed maybe. Face of a gopher body of a gecko?

 

[arildno]

Lizard gopher half breed maybe. Face of a gopher body of a gecko?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Skull and Bones is a Frat whose members are mostly Masons or prospective Masons. They are not a secret society. The Masons themselves barely even constitute a secret society anymore.

The main antagonist Dan Brown's book "Angels and Demons" is supposedly the Illuminati. All the supposed information that he throws around about them and historical figures in the book is his own invention based off of wild conspiracy theories with no mention what so ever of the real historical organization the Bavarian Illuminati. If you go to his web page there is a section that gives a summerized history of the real Illuminati. A book you might want to look for is "Secret Societies: A History" by Arkon Daraul. It has a very good factual history for a number of real secret societies through out history.

 

[eosphorus]

the picture of abdalla doing that symbol to putin can only be due to their belonging at a common secret society and till somebody offers a better explanation that's what ill believe

 

[matthyaouw]

Interesting. Perhaps you also understand this secret symbol.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

the picture of abdalla doing that symbol to putin can only be due to their belonging at a common secret society and till somebody offers a better explanation that's what ill believe

I'm sorry but you are not analyzing this properly. What evidence is there that they belong to a secret society aside from this supposed hand sign they are using? If you saw a picture of my friends and I joking around and throwing stupid looking gang signs would you assume that we must be gang members? And you shouldn't be waiting for someone to present you with alternative explinations you should be looking for them yourself. If this topic really interests you you need to be more critical and skeptical yourself. Out of all the subjects you could study secret societies and conspiracies are the two where you will find the most garbage and misinformation. In the book business it is a pretty big commercial market. People profit off of getting people to believe this crap, that and people like me who find it amusing.

 

[Evo]

This site is so bizarrely ridiculous, I have to think it is a prank. Seriously, did anyone bother to read the other stuff here, like the spider goats? "These genetically altered goats produced (mutated) in a laboratory are presently producing milk that is being used to make bullet-proof vests. The fibers contained in the spider goat's milk are twice as strong as Kevlar! Can you imagine?"

The website is a JOKE people.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End of the World/Genetics Nightmare/spider_goats.htm

 

[Smurf]

This site is so bizarrely ridiculous, I have to think it is a prank. Seriously, did anyone bother to read the other stuff here, like the spider goats? "These genetically altered goats produced (mutated) in a laboratory are presently producing milk that is being used to make bullet-proof vests. The fibers contained in the spider goat's milk are twice as strong as Kevlar! Can you imagine?"

The website is a JOKE people.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End of the World/Genetics Nightmare/spider_goats.htm

But... but... they're right about so many things! (moonbear is going to kill me)

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

This site is so bizarrely ridiculous, I have to think it is a prank. Seriously, did anyone bother to read the other stuff here, like the spider goats? "These genetically altered goats produced (mutated) in a laboratory are presently producing milk that is being used to make bullet-proof vests. The fibers contained in the spider goat's milk are twice as strong as Kevlar! Can you imagine?"

The website is a JOKE people.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End of the World/Genetics Nightmare/spider_goats.htm

You never know. This same stuff is all over the place. Also see the guy who invented Angel Light and the Bear Suit. That guy is a complete nutbag.

 

[Evo]

You never know. This same stuff is all over the place. Also see the guy who invented Angel Light and the Bear Suit. That guy is a complete nutbag.

Who is that nut that has that huge, intricate site Tom god or something? This guy spent an incredible amount of time and effort on that site.

 

[arildno]

Anyways, nutbag or not, he has a rather cool taste in music.

 

[Smurf]

Who is that nut that has that huge, intricate site Tom god or something? This guy spent an incredible amount of time and effort on that site.

I tried to google tom god, and found http://workingforchange.speedera.net/www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/WFC/td030412.gif

 

[Moonbear]

But... but... they're right about so many things! (moonbear is going to kill me)

That's why it's hard to tell if it's a joke or if they're serious. There are people who really believe things like that.

 

[Smurf]

Hey look, they have a 'how to' page. Couldn't be that hard. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html

 

[arildno]

He is clearly a nutbag.
I cannot for the life of me see how a jester would bother to scour the Bible for appropriate verses every other sentence.
This is, however, a standard literary technique within religious literature like Bible exegesis and hagiographies.
The guy is genuine.

 

[Moonbear]

Hey look, they have a 'how to' page. Couldn't be that hard. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html

Do you admit that you deserve to burn in hell?

Yep, yep, I'm 25% of the way there!

 

[Smurf]

You know, I never understood that religion. Just because I believe that Jesus died to save me, means I'm going to heaven no matter what I do in this life. I can believe in jesus, and believe that because I believe in Jesus that I can do whatever I want and not go to hell because I believe in Jesus... Ummmm, hello?

 

[JamesU]

where can I find this pic of kerry with the '666'?

Hey look, they have a 'how to' page. Couldn't be that hard. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html

HAHA !

 

[Smurf]

That's why it's hard to tell if it's a joke or if they're serious. There are people who really believe things like that.

That's true. I remember the last time I dated a christian girl, on this one occasion we were at the library and she picked up a book about Wicca, sat down beside me and proceeded to tell me how Wicca is Satanism and Completely Evil.

(although I don't think she had it out for harry potter)

 

[Smurf]

where can I find this pic of kerry with the '666'?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Wicca & Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm
third picture down

 

[JamesU]

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Wicca & Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm
third picture down

so they call him satanic because of a coincidence?

 

[Evo]

Well, gosh darn. It was www.tedjesuschristgod.org[/URL], but it's gone. :frown:

Will someone find the PF link to this for me? [url]https://www.physicsforums.com/archive/t-15757_Everyone_bow_to_TED_CHRIST.html[/url]

edit: whoa, nobody go there, this is when PF was more lax. :bugeye:

 

[Smurf]

so they call him satanic because of a coincidence?

You were expecting logic?

 

[Jonny_trigonometry]

As far as I'm conerned, pictures of people giving hand signals doesn't mean anything either way. It's true that satanists use this hand signal, but so do non-satanists, and for some reason that signal is sort of connotated with "bad a$$!" and "bad mutha fu##a!" and "hardcore, in-your-face!", it's equivalent to telling someone "you don't want to mess with me because I'm a crazy mofo!" or something like that. Hard rock and metal music conveys the same feeling, only with the way the music is arranged, and so that hand signal and that music compliment each other, so many rock and metal musicians make that signal. It doesn't mean that those musicians are satanists, it just helps them sell more records because people like their image. It draws on the feeling of power, and makes the signaler feel powerful, simply because people (at least, western culture) have been conditioned to feel that way when they give that signal. If you don't agree with the meaning of it, then you feel little and less powerful than the person giving the signal. If you agree with it, then you feel like you're on the same level as that person giving the signal. This type of stuff is as simple to relate to as any non-verbal communication like "hang ten" which means "cut loose" or "relax and ride the wave" or "have fun at what you're doing" or gang signs like "west side!" which symbolizes that a person likes the west coast of America more than the east. err, i guess west side isn't a gang sign. Most people don't know what gang sighns look like, like the crips and the bloods, so when they see someone making tose sings, it means nothing to them but "huh?". But to a crip gang member (who often makes crip hand signals), when he/she sees the bloods hand signal, he/she automattically feels a sense of resentment, anger, and hate for the person making the signal and vice versa.

show me a picture of Bush swearing an oath with his hand on the satanic bible and his other hand holding a real human skull filled with human blood, while dressed in a ceremonial gown with only one shoe on, wearing a noose, kneeling in the middle of a pentagram that's drawn on the floor, and surrounded by red candles that circle the pentogram or something like that. Then maybe you'd have something. (I'm betting he did do something like that anyways), but of course nobody would have pictures of it... unless they plan to blackmail him if he ever mentions his involvement in these activities and tries to convict other satanists in high positions who have done many illegal and hanus acts. I highly doubt that Metallica members have gone through the trouble of doing something like this though.