Does there exist a state of zero total energy?

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The discussion centers on the possibility of a state with zero total energy, considering contributions from mass and spin. It suggests that while a pure vacuum could theoretically exist with zero energy, the presence of any particles inherently means the total energy cannot be zero due to mass-energy equivalence. Measurements may indicate zero total energy, but this does not imply the system actually possesses it, especially when accounting for the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP). The conversation raises the question of whether a situation could exist where the uncertainty in energy is perfectly zero, potentially allowing for a claim of zero total energy. Overall, the feasibility of achieving a true state of zero total energy remains highly debated.
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Counting contributions from mass, spin, etc., is there a physical circumstance of zero total energy?
 
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In principle, I don't see why there could not be a pure vacuum (a region containing zero energy).

But obviously, since even mass itself is equivalent to energy, any state including a particle cannot have zero total energy.
 
Can we make a measurement of zero total energy? Sure. Can we therefore imply that the system (or physical circumstance if you like) has zero total energy? I don't think so, not if you account for the HUP.

Could you get a circumstance where the uncertainty in energy is perfectly zero perhaps? Then it may be possible to claim a circumstance zero energy is possible.

Claude.
 

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