Does This Improper Integral Converge or Diverge?

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the improper integral \(\int_{-1}^{1} \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx\). Participants are examining the behavior of the integrand, particularly at the endpoints where it is not defined.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss splitting the integral at points where the function is undefined and question the validity of evaluating the integral directly at the endpoints. There is also a focus on the properties of the integrand, such as its odd function nature.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the need to use limits for evaluating the integral and have pointed out the significance of the integrand being an odd function. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct antiderivative and its implications for convergence.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the evaluation of the integral due to the improper nature of the limits, and participants are encouraged to refer to textbook examples for further clarification on improper integrals.

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Hi, I need to determine whether this improper integral converges or diverges

<br /> <br /> \int_{-1}^{1} \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx<br /> <br />


The original function DNE at -1, 1 so I split the limits

\int_{-1}^{0} \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx \ + \ \int_{0}^{1} \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx


I've integrated it and got

<br /> <br /> - \frac{1}{2\sqrt{1-x^2}}<br /> <br />


After that I tried subbing in the limits for each equation and added them together

-0.5 + -0.5 = -1

So my answer was that the integral converges to -1, but the answer is supposed to be 0, can anyone help me out with this?
 
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crowKAKAWWW said:
Hi, I need to determine whether this improper integral converges or diverges

<br /> <br /> \int_{-1}^{1} \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx<br /> <br />


The original function DNE at -1, 1 so I split the limits

\int_{-1}^{0} \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx \ + \ \int_{0}^{1} \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx


I've integrated it and got

<br /> <br /> - \frac{1}{2\sqrt{1-x^2}}<br /> <br />


After that I tried subbing in the limits for each equation and added them together

-0.5 + -0.5 = -1

So my answer was that the integral converges to -1, but the answer is supposed to be 0, can anyone help me out with this?
You need to use limits to evaluate this integral. Splitting the integral into two integrals is a good idea. You can get away with evaluating just one of the improper integrals, because the integrand is an odd function. If one of your split integrals converges to a value, the other one will converge to the negative of that value.
 
Ah ok,

So because of the denominator

<br /> \sqrt{1-x^2}}<br />

In order to get a real number... x^2 < 1
So the limits would be (-1, 1), added together gives me my convergence to 0, is that it?
 
crowKAKAWWW said:
I've integrated it and got

<br /> <br /> - \frac{1}{2\sqrt{1-x^2}}<br /> <br />

Just to be clear, the antiderivative of

\frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}

is not
- \frac{1}{2\sqrt{1-x^2}}.


It is -\sqrt{1-x^{2}}.
 
crowKAKAWWW said:
Ah ok,

So because of the denominator

<br /> \sqrt{1-x^2}}<br />

In order to get a real number... x^2 < 1
So the limits would be (-1, 1), added together gives me my convergence to 0, is that it?
I think that you completely missed my point. Because the integrand is not defined at every point in the interval [-1, 1], you can't just find an antiderivative and evaluate it at the endpoints.

Your textbook should have some examples of how to work with improper integrals.
 

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