Domination & Control: Is Religion/Politics to Blame?

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The discussion centers on the influence of religion and politics in human behavior, particularly regarding domination and control. It posits that while power dynamics exist in nature, human culture uniquely amplifies these tendencies, leading to the abuse of natural behaviors. The argument suggests that humans, unlike other species, engage in legalized lying and manipulation, often justified by fear of death and the need for social cohesion. The conversation also touches on the role of faith in law versus the lawlessness associated with deceit. A counterpoint is raised, asserting that animal behavior can also exhibit power abuse, as seen in species like lions that kill for dominance and resource control. This highlights the complexity of power dynamics across both human and animal societies.
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Is religion/politics a major influence in domination and control rather than just human nature?

It's natural for living beings to demonstrate behaviour of power and control. However, all species limit this behaviour, except for the case of humans. It is only in human culture we see the abuse of natural behaviour. Also, only in human culture do we find belief in religions. Political systems exist in nature (such as the hierarchy of a pride of lions), however humans are the only ones who take it to extreme levels.

Returning to the question, I ask whether it is human nature or human culture that is to blame for the abuse of natural behaviour.
 
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Lion like pride in Mankind/Man. Is a way we legalize lying. In a legal system, we do not legalize lying. It's the bully criminal, or lion pride. That does this.

Lying is the result of using Postulates and points that are meaningless, like 1X0 = 1000, type logic. Law is using postulates and their points in a converse way that, 1X0=0

There is no fear in the law. There is faith.
In lying there is no law, and no faith. Why have faith in a lier ? Fear of repercussion, or dying.
Since we all fear dying, we also NEED liers to justify this.

So we wander in packs that is rather lawless and run by pride. Else we have no immunization from our fear of death. See ? Our packs have liers that justify fear.

We fear, so this equals liers, so bring the liers. This is just.

Comprehend ?
 
yesicanread said:
Lion like pride in Mankind/Man. Is a way we legalize lying. In a legal system, we do not legalize lying. It's the bully criminal, or lion pride. That does this.

Lying is the result of using Postulates and points that are meaningless, like 1X0 = 1000, type logic. Law is using postulates and their points in a converse way that, 1X0=0

There is no fear in the law. There is faith.
In lying there is no law, and no faith. Why have faith in a lier ? Fear of repercussion, or dying.
Since we all fear dying, we also NEED liers to justify this.

So we wander in packs that is rather lawless and run by pride. Else we have no immunization from our fear of death. See ? Our packs have liers that justify fear.

We fear, so this equals liers, so bring the liers. This is just.

Comprehend ?


Ummm.. maybe you can read, but you really can't comprehend. My post was nothing about liars(well, i did talk about politics), fear of death, faith, or whatever else you may have talked about.
 
I have to disagree with your premises. Anmials do abuse their positions of power. Many types of animals (including lions) kill their own kind and even offspring to preserve hunting grounds and maiting rights for themselves.
 
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